Runway question in general, and specifically HKIA
Dec 1, 2008, 7:58 pm
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Runway question in general, and specifically HKIA
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I have a question about runways. HKIA has two parallel runways: 07L/25R, and 07R/25L. How would you be able to tell which direction is which? I know that 07 means it's 70 degrees (ie close to the direction of east), but say for example you are taking off from 07L. Would you be on the runway in the north or south? Do you takeoff from west to east, or east to west? Does this change during landing?
Now for the specific question about HKIA. I know that if you takeoff/land with a certain runway, you get a really good view of the HK harbour on both sides. Which are they?
Thanks for helping in advance!
I have a question about runways. HKIA has two parallel runways: 07L/25R, and 07R/25L. How would you be able to tell which direction is which? I know that 07 means it's 70 degrees (ie close to the direction of east), but say for example you are taking off from 07L. Would you be on the runway in the north or south? Do you takeoff from west to east, or east to west? Does this change during landing?
Now for the specific question about HKIA. I know that if you takeoff/land with a certain runway, you get a really good view of the HK harbour on both sides. Which are they?
Thanks for helping in advance!
Dec 1, 2008, 8:20 pm
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The directions are based on the pilot's perspective. 07L is the runway that's on the left when you're facing 70°. This applies for both takeoff and landing -- if you're taking off on 25L the compass will read 250°.
Whether you take off on 25L or 07R (the same runway but going different directions) is dictated by traffic control, usually due to the wind direction.
Whether you take off on 25L or 07R (the same runway but going different directions) is dictated by traffic control, usually due to the wind direction.
Dec 1, 2008, 8:28 pm
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07L is an east-heading runway to the left of 07R, and is therefore on the northside.
07L or 07R head toward the city, but whether you right through the harbour (in order to see the city on both sides depends on the departure path, which is not necessarily correlated to whether 07L or 07R is used. My last HKG-SFO departure make a 90-degree right turn to the south of HK Island before resuming an east heading.
BTW, HK's ATIS can be seen here: http://www.weather.gov.hk/aviat/atis.htm
07L or 07R head toward the city, but whether you right through the harbour (in order to see the city on both sides depends on the departure path, which is not necessarily correlated to whether 07L or 07R is used. My last HKG-SFO departure make a 90-degree right turn to the south of HK Island before resuming an east heading.
BTW, HK's ATIS can be seen here: http://www.weather.gov.hk/aviat/atis.htm
Dec 1, 2008, 9:33 pm
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On the majority of my flights into and out of the new HKG, we used 7L for landing and 7R for take off.
Here is a photo I took after departure from 7R from the left side of the aircraft, when we were above HK Island, looking down at the old Kai Tak runway.
http://rkkwan.zenfolio.com/p1034994400/e14ee7537
When the wind direction is reverse, they'll use 25R for landing and 25L for take off usually, I believe. In that case, when landing you'll get a good view of Victoria Harbour and the city from the left side of the aircraft a few minutes prior to arrival.
Here is a photo I took after departure from 7R from the left side of the aircraft, when we were above HK Island, looking down at the old Kai Tak runway.
http://rkkwan.zenfolio.com/p1034994400/e14ee7537
When the wind direction is reverse, they'll use 25R for landing and 25L for take off usually, I believe. In that case, when landing you'll get a good view of Victoria Harbour and the city from the left side of the aircraft a few minutes prior to arrival.
Dec 1, 2008, 11:59 pm
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thanks for replying everyone and for all your help!
i get it now! hope i'll be lucky enough to steal glances of the harbour this winter. i've only had the chance to do it once, on a flight from beijing to hkg.
i get it now! hope i'll be lucky enough to steal glances of the harbour this winter. i've only had the chance to do it once, on a flight from beijing to hkg.
Dec 2, 2008, 8:25 pm
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During the summer time 90% of the chances will use 25L for take off, 25R for landing, & here are some of the 25R landing night shots:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=51
During the winter time 90% of the chances will use 07L for landing, 07R for take off, & here are some of the 07R take off evening shots as well:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=52
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=51
During the winter time 90% of the chances will use 07L for landing, 07R for take off, & here are some of the 07R take off evening shots as well:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=52
Dec 3, 2008, 8:48 pm
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During the summer time 90% of the chances will use 25L for take off, 25R for landing, & here are some of the 25R landing night shots:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=51
During the winter time 90% of the chances will use 07L for landing, 07R for take off, & here are some of the 07R take off evening shots as well:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=52
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=51
During the winter time 90% of the chances will use 07L for landing, 07R for take off, & here are some of the 07R take off evening shots as well:
http://www.sqtalk.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=52
That's interesting and those photos are great thanks. ^
Noticed this morning that they were using 07R for take off.
Most weekends in the morning I can see then use 07R for takeoff and switch in the afternoon to 25L for landing.
I'll take a closer look this weekend.