Limitations on Earning Pts for 1 Hotel Stay?
#1
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Limitations on Earning Pts for 1 Hotel Stay?
I read through the HH T&C's, and I would just like to confirm that the only limitation on earning HH points for 1 hotel stay is the 100,000 base point limitation.
I seem to recall one hotel chain has a consecutive night limitation (*wood?), but I don't see that mentioned at Hilton Hhonors.
I tried to search for this info and did not see any obvious posts.
I seem to recall one hotel chain has a consecutive night limitation (*wood?), but I don't see that mentioned at Hilton Hhonors.
I tried to search for this info and did not see any obvious posts.
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I think there's a 30-night (consecutive) limit.
But if you're going to be there that long, work some deal with the manager. I'm sure they'll be willing to accomodate you.
But if you're going to be there that long, work some deal with the manager. I'm sure they'll be willing to accomodate you.
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I don't have any direct experience with this as my stays have never been more than a few weeks.
However, I try to keep up on the issues raised by various threads, and the 100,000 point per stay limit has been raised numerous times over the past 3 years by people with 6 month or longer stays at one property. One was in the past month.
I don't know how you might search... "100,000" and "100000" and "100K"? Oh, better yet, find the T&C paragraph and copy a key phrase from it. It is almost always quoted in the threads discussing this issue.
As for any day limit, I don't recall one ever being disussed. But if I was your Millionaire Lifeline you'd have to tell Regis that I'm not entirely positive.
However, I try to keep up on the issues raised by various threads, and the 100,000 point per stay limit has been raised numerous times over the past 3 years by people with 6 month or longer stays at one property. One was in the past month.
I don't know how you might search... "100,000" and "100000" and "100K"? Oh, better yet, find the T&C paragraph and copy a key phrase from it. It is almost always quoted in the threads discussing this issue.
As for any day limit, I don't recall one ever being disussed. But if I was your Millionaire Lifeline you'd have to tell Regis that I'm not entirely positive.
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hi
its easy.
if you stay over 29/30days (full month) the hotel has to report you and register you as a resident.
this has to do with local laws etc. so mostly hotels let you only stay 29/30days as one stay.
if you stay longer no points will be given , and income tax etc. may apply.
at hiltons you can only earn 100K base points in one stay.
this is because you will hit diamond with one stay.
but you can earn Award Points without any limitation. I earned 190K points in one stay last time.
dp
if you stay over 29/30days (full month) the hotel has to report you and register you as a resident.
this has to do with local laws etc. so mostly hotels let you only stay 29/30days as one stay.
if you stay longer no points will be given , and income tax etc. may apply.
at hiltons you can only earn 100K base points in one stay.
this is because you will hit diamond with one stay.
but you can earn Award Points without any limitation. I earned 190K points in one stay last time.
dp
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Originally Posted by derpelikan
if you stay over 29/30days (full month) the hotel has to report you and register you as a resident.
this has to do with local laws etc. so mostly hotels let you only stay 29/30days as one stay.
if you stay longer no points will be given , and income tax etc. may apply.
at hiltons you can only earn 100K base points in one stay.
this is because you will hit diamond with one stay.
but you can earn Award Points without any limitation. I earned 190K points in one stay last time.
this has to do with local laws etc. so mostly hotels let you only stay 29/30days as one stay.
if you stay longer no points will be given , and income tax etc. may apply.
at hiltons you can only earn 100K base points in one stay.
this is because you will hit diamond with one stay.
but you can earn Award Points without any limitation. I earned 190K points in one stay last time.
http://hhonors.hilton.com/en/hhonors...rual_of_points
9. HHonors Members cannot accrue more than 100,000 Base points during one stay, except for Homewood Suites by Hilton® hotels for check-in dates on or after January 1, 2006.
a) I can't find anything in the T&C about it.
b) And the logic of your argument doesn't pan out for me. Having owned rental property in a few states, I've never come across, nor could I imagine a law that requires landlords to be enforcers of tenants responsibilities by reporting new residents.
Regardless of the legal question, I'd simply like to see something from the T&C saying that there is an X day stay limit. Until presented with that verbiage, I would argue that the answer to the OP's question is that the only limit is the 100K BASE point limitation, and no day limit.
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day limit
about the day limit.
on FT there was once a explanation why there is a limitation on how many days you can be checked in on a consecutive stay.
the 100K limitation is in the T&C . about the day limit, i am not an expert on this, but one hotel manager explained me that he has to make an long term contract if i stay longer than one month in one stay.
(this means no hilton points, and a deposit)
dp
on FT there was once a explanation why there is a limitation on how many days you can be checked in on a consecutive stay.
the 100K limitation is in the T&C . about the day limit, i am not an expert on this, but one hotel manager explained me that he has to make an long term contract if i stay longer than one month in one stay.
(this means no hilton points, and a deposit)
dp
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Just to add one more piece to the puzzle, I picked a random property (Hampton Denver Downtown) and made a 45 day reservation. No issues, at least with the online reservation.
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Originally Posted by Rut Dog
As to the 29 or 30 day limit...
a) I can't find anything in the T&C about it.
a) I can't find anything in the T&C about it.
I've run into this a couple of times before, and in different jurisdictions. I think the reasoning is that if you're there more than 30 consecutive days, you're considered a resident. The hotel will typically refund the taxes you've paid (or they should), and you may subject youself to other texes instead.
I've thought it best to arrange a break every 28 days or so. Pay up, get the points, and start over.
If you find yourself in that situation, best speak with the hotel manager (if he appears knowledgeable) and make sure you don't get caught by some un-obvious laws.
#9
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Originally Posted by derpelikan
if you stay longer no points will be given , and income tax etc. may apply.
#10
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Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle
I read through the HH T&C's, and I would just like to confirm that the only limitation on earning HH points for 1 hotel stay is the 100,000 base point limitation.
I seem to recall one hotel chain has a consecutive night limitation (*wood?), but I don't see that mentioned at Hilton Hhonors.
I tried to search for this info and did not see any obvious posts.
I seem to recall one hotel chain has a consecutive night limitation (*wood?), but I don't see that mentioned at Hilton Hhonors.
I tried to search for this info and did not see any obvious posts.
#11
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Originally Posted by MCPO
I have thought about contacting Hilton Honors because the rules penalize the customers that spend the most.