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Official link showing the maximum number of points needed to redeem a standard room award after the changes: http://pointsandmoney.hilton.com/
How will standard room rewards be affected by the changes?
Will I earn bonus points on the cash portion of Points & Money bookings?
Although the HonorsRepresentative stated in Feb 2017 that 'you can rest assured about the value of your Points. As we make this transition on Standard Room Rewards, each hotel's maximum Points price is NOT increasing', in June 2017 the maximum number of points needed to redeem standard room rewards at four properties were raised. Furthermore, the HonorsRepresentative stated that:
List of properties which have seen increases in the maximum number of points needed to redeem standard room awards since the changes:
How will standard room rewards be affected by the changes?
Our Points prices will also become more flexible. When demand and room rates are lower, Points prices will flex and go lower than before. As we launch this new benefit, we’re also saying farewell to hotel categories - which will allow prices to go lower than the previous ranges. But you can rest assured about the value of your Points. As we make this transition on Standard Room Rewards, each hotel's maximum Points price is NOT increasing.
For example, today a Standard Room at Category 10 hotels maxes out at 95,000 Points per night. Once the new Points & Money program launches, those hotels will continue to top out at 95,000 Points, and may sometimes be priced lower than the previous category range.
For example, today a Standard Room at Category 10 hotels maxes out at 95,000 Points per night. Once the new Points & Money program launches, those hotels will continue to top out at 95,000 Points, and may sometimes be priced lower than the previous category range.
If you book a Points & Money rate when the new functionality goes live later this month [Feb 2017], the money portion will qualify to earn Hilton Honors Base Points. You'll also qualify to earn Bonus Points through eligible promotions, including the 2K Every Day promotion (note: I posted this update in the promotion thread, as well).
Points & Money stays booked under the current system are subject to the current Terms & Conditions of the program - therefore, you would not be eligible to earn Points on the cash portion of the stay.
Points & Money stays booked under the current system are subject to the current Terms & Conditions of the program - therefore, you would not be eligible to earn Points on the cash portion of the stay.
- Hampton Inn closest to Universal Orlando, US: Cat 3 (max 20,000 points) to Cat 4 (max 30,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Hangzhou East, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Jiaxing, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Wuhu, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Shenzhen Longhua, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Doubletree by Hilton Xiamen-Haicang, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Fuzhou Cangshan, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Suzhou, China: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Ningbo, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Chicago/Hoffman Estates, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Lincoln, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Las Vegas Airport, US: Cat 3 (max 20,000 points) to max 25,000 points
- DoubleTree by Hilton Ningbo Beilun, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Shenzhen Bao'an, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Dandong, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Krakow, Poland, Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton Inn and Suites Oxford/Anniston, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Oxford/Anniston, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hilton Kota Kinabalu, Malaysia: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Conrad Macao Cotai Central: Cat 5 (max 40,000 points) to Cat 6 (max 50,000 points)
- Hampton Inn LaGrange near Callaway Gardens, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Cartersville, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton Inn Fall River/Westport, US: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to Cat 3 (max 20,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Minsk City Centre, Belarus: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Ningbo - Chunxiao, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Foshan, China: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Alexandria Corniche, Egypt: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Alexandria Green Plaza, Egypt: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Melaka, Malaysia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Swinoujscie, Poland: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to max 15,000 points
- Hampton by Hilton Nizhny Novgorod, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hampton by Hilton Samara, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Ulyanovsk, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- Hilton Garden Inn Volgograd, Russia: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
- DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Trabzon (previously Hilton Garden Inn Trabzon), Turkey: Cat 2 (max 10,000 points) to max 25,000 points
- Hilton Salalah Resort, Oman: Cat 1 (max 5,000 points) to Cat 2 (max 10,000 points)
Announcing Four New Hilton Honors Perks
#346
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
Ah, the old saying is "over-promise, under-deliver", isn't it?
Why don't they pay BA's IT guy a couple bucks to show Hilton how they do it with Avios?
I'm a bit removed from my programming days, but combining two integer variables to create a sum doesn't strike me as earth-shattering stuff.
Why don't they pay BA's IT guy a couple bucks to show Hilton how they do it with Avios?
I'm a bit removed from my programming days, but combining two integer variables to create a sum doesn't strike me as earth-shattering stuff.
#347
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Global
Programs: United 1K, Qatar Gold, Etihad Gold, Hilton Diamond, InterCon RA, PC Plat, SPG Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,454
I don't understand why the exchange for free perk is difficult to implement. All you need to do is change a few lines of code.
#348
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
I agree on the IT side. However what I am wondering is if perhaps this delay isn't actually due to implementation, but rather perhaps due to more strategic issues. Specifically, reading the FAQs for pooling on the Hilton website, there isn't any discussion of status - which member's status would be applicable to the stay? Moreover, since it seems that the idea is to let large groups of "friends" - which I am sure would invariably end up including "internet friends" - pool points, I can certainly see a fraud/abuse potential that they may not have entirely thought through. So maybe the holdup isn't in pulling the IT trigger, but re-examining the implications.
#349
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
I agree on the IT side. However what I am wondering is if perhaps this delay isn't actually due to implementation, but rather perhaps due to more strategic issues. Specifically, reading the FAQs for pooling on the Hilton website, there isn't any discussion of status - which member's status would be applicable to the stay? Moreover, since it seems that the idea is to let large groups of "friends" - which I am sure would invariably end up including "internet friends" - pool points, I can certainly see a fraud/abuse potential that they may not have entirely thought through. So maybe the holdup isn't in pulling the IT trigger, but re-examining the implications.
Why can't they just follow the same free transfer model as several hotel chains already do...is it so important to be the "first" for "pooling with up to 10 people"?
#350
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
Agreed. A simple household account for folks at the same address (didn't Hilton used to have this a long time ago?) would be a nice start.
#351
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Coast
Programs: Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond; National Car Rental Executive Elite
Posts: 2,322
They said I only have 3 consecutive years as a Diamond member. However, I've earned Diamond status every year since 2013. I emailed them back and asked how they calculated my 3 years and am awaiting a response.
#352
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 17
HHonors Diamond Customer Care emailed me a PDF of my entire stay history.
They said I only have 3 consecutive years as a Diamond member. However, I've earned Diamond status every year since 2013. I emailed them back and asked how they calculated my 3 years and am awaiting a response.
They said I only have 3 consecutive years as a Diamond member. However, I've earned Diamond status every year since 2013. I emailed them back and asked how they calculated my 3 years and am awaiting a response.
In your case you probably became diamond in 2013 later than now (April).
#353
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gulf Coast
Programs: Hilton Honors Lifetime Diamond; National Car Rental Executive Elite
Posts: 2,322
#354
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: MID
Programs: Delta Skymiles Lifetime Silver, Delta MM, Lifetime Marriott Plat, Lifetime Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 366
Hi all,
At Hilton, we aim to deliver the best new benefits and features to our Hilton Honors members. We are really excited to be the first in the hotel industry to launch Points Pooling at no cost to members, and because this is a new product, we want to ensure a seamless user experience for this new benefit. We’re now testing and refining the online experience, and will share an update on the launch of Points Pooling next week.
Thank you!
Lauren
At Hilton, we aim to deliver the best new benefits and features to our Hilton Honors members. We are really excited to be the first in the hotel industry to launch Points Pooling at no cost to members, and because this is a new product, we want to ensure a seamless user experience for this new benefit. We’re now testing and refining the online experience, and will share an update on the launch of Points Pooling next week.
Thank you!
Lauren
Do you have any idea when this is getting rolled out?
Shop with Points on Amazon – Come summer 2017, Hilton Honors members will be able to use their Points to purchase products on Amazon.com. Our partnership with Amazon will give members more choices and more ways to use Points.
Thanks.
#355
Company Representative - Honors by Hilton
Original Poster
Join Date: Aug 2009
Programs: Hilton Honors
Posts: 1,516
Point Pooling: Live Tomorrow, 4/26
Hi all,
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
#357
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 512
Hi all,
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
#359
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Asia
Programs: IHG Spire, Accor Gold
Posts: 311
Points Pooling Live
Hi all,
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
As promised, sharing the latest news around our newest benefit Points Pooling, which officially launches April 26. I'll share the link (once available) to learn more about how you can combine your Points with family and friends. Again, there’s no fee involved with transferring, and you can pool Points with up to ten other people to get closer to your next hotel stay. You can also redeem your Points for other items, including experiences on the Hilton Honors Auction site or later this year on Amazon.com when our Shop with Points program launches.
Let me know if you have any questions or need more info. Happy pooling!
Thank you!
Lauren
PS – T&Cs will also be updated to reflect the update of Points Pooling.
The 'More Ways To Use Points' webpage in the members section is now updated to include 'Pool Points'
[https://secure3.hilton.com/en/hh/cus...oUsePoints.htm] and the linked page invites you to "Create your Hilton Honors Points Pool today. Get to your group's reward stay sooner." [https://secure3.hilton.com/en/hh/cus...poolPoints.htm] .
The general 'Buy, Gift & Transfer' webpage is also now updated to 'Buy, Gift, Pool & Transfer' [http://hiltonhonors3.hilton.com/en/e...ive/index.html] with a 'Learn More' link that goes to the FAQ's [http://hiltonhonors3.hilton.com/en/p...#pointspooling] while the main 'Pool Points' link goes to the members section link above.
Last edited by Expat_852; Apr 27, 2017 at 2:05 am Reason: Links updated
#360
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 6,344
The 'More Ways To Use Points' webpage in the members section is now updated to include 'Pool Points' [https://secure3.hilton.com/en/hh/cus...UsePoints.htm] and the linked page invites you to "Create your Hilton Honors Points Pool today. Get to your group's reward stay sooner." [https://secure3.hilton.com/en/hh/cus...oolPoints.htm].
Just tried a pooling transaction which was successful.
http://hiltonhonors3.hilton.com/en/p...money/faq.html
How many people can contribute to Points Pooling?
A total of 11 Hilton Honors Members can pool their Points together. One Member initiates the pooling and up to 10 other Members can contribute.
How many Points Pools can I be in?
There is no limit on the number of pools a member can be in at a given time.
What is the minimum/maximum number of Points that can be pooled?
A Member can transfer a minimum of 1,000 Points and a maximum of 500,000 Points into a pool in a calendar year. A Member can receive up to 2 million Points in a calendar year.
A total of 11 Hilton Honors Members can pool their Points together. One Member initiates the pooling and up to 10 other Members can contribute.
How many Points Pools can I be in?
There is no limit on the number of pools a member can be in at a given time.
What is the minimum/maximum number of Points that can be pooled?
A Member can transfer a minimum of 1,000 Points and a maximum of 500,000 Points into a pool in a calendar year. A Member can receive up to 2 million Points in a calendar year.
Points must be transferred in 1,000 point increments.
Each Hilton Honors Member is limited to six (6) Transfer and six (6) Points Pooling transactions per calendar year. Any points beyond these limits will not be posted to any Member's account.
Each Hilton Honors Member is limited to six (6) Transfer and six (6) Points Pooling transactions per calendar year. Any points beyond these limits will not be posted to any Member's account.