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Old Dec 16, 2014, 2:26 pm
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Lifetime Diamond Status with HHonors is now reality. ^

More recent information posted by Lauren (Hilton Honors Representative) reflects changes in the Honors Lifetime Diamond qualifying criteria:

Originally Posted by HonorsRepresentative
Hi all,

A few months ago, we received some great feedback in the Q&A thread with our VP of Hilton HHonors, Aaron Glick. While the team explores a number of initiatives, one area that we could change quickly was our Lifetime Diamond qualifications. As of January 2017, we will grant Lifetime Diamond to all members who have met the following criteria:

• Members who have maintained Diamond status for at least 10 years (years do not need to be consecutive)

AND

• Have stayed at least 1,000 nights - either paid or reward (as you may know, only paid nights were eligible before)

OR

• Have accumulated 2 million Base Points since joining the Hilton HHonors program (this is a new feature to enable more members to enjoy Lifetime Diamond status; also as a reminder, only Base Points are eligible...Bonus Points earned via promotions, co-brand credit cards, or other means do not count towards status)


So now, there will be essentially two ways you can qualify for Lifetime Diamond:
1. 10 years at Diamond with Hilton HHonors + 1,000 nights (including paid and reward)
2. 10 years at Diamond + 2 million cumulative Base Points

An email notification will go out in February to members who have qualified for Lifetime Diamond as of December 31, 2016. If you want a sneak peek to find out if you will qualify, you can contact the Diamond Desk and the team will be happy to help.

Please reach out with any questions or comments, and I’ll be sure to share them directly with Aaron and team.

Thank you!
Lauren
Previous:

Details for the first inductees were announced on the 11th Feb. 2015. Erin (HHonors Rep here on FT) posted the announcement shortly before the emails were sent out to members on the same day.

Originally Posted by HHonorsRepresentative
Hi all,

Thanks for your patience as I gathered more details on our Lifetime Diamond rollout. As we’re in the New Year, I have some additional details to share with you.

Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:
  • Have maintained Diamond Status for at least 10 years (consecutive or concurrent) and
  • Completed paid stays totaling at least 1,000 nights
Members that met this criteria as of December 31, 2014 will be notified via email and receive their Lifetime Diamond Status in the mail at the physical address on their account at the end of February. Members that meet Lifetime Diamond Status criteria in the middle of the year will receive Lifetime Diamond Status at the beginning of the following year.

Please note that we are in early stages of this benefit, which means that elements of this offering may evolve and may change over time. As I hear of any updates, I will be sure to share those here.

As always, your input is truly valued and we welcome your thoughts and feedback during this launch period. We’re here and listening!

Thanks,
Erin
[B]Initially, Lifetime Diamond Status will go to a select group of members who met all of the following criteria as of December 31, 2014:

All paid stays count — not just the paid stays during the years a member is a Hilton HHonors diamond.

As more information becomes available it will be added here. Should you have any updates please post them in the thread or in this wiki to keep the most pertinent info quickly available to those interested.



For those interested, the development unfolded as follows:

Erin, the HHonors rep on FT posted the following on 16/12/2014: (after some eagle eyed attention by adambrock from an email sent out by Hilton and which he thankfully posted here on FT: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...tus-email.html Kudos to adambrock for noticing and sharing it with the community. ^)

HHonorsRepresentative (Erin) wrote in that thread:

In 2015, HHonors will begin introducing Lifetime Diamond Status! As you may know, we’re always looking for new ways to reward you and we take into consideration your feedback on ways to recognize our most loyal members. Over the past several years, we’ve heard from you that Lifetime Diamond Status is important to you and I’m thrilled to announce that we will be inviting some of our most tenured Diamond members into this status.

I’ll have more details for you in early 2015 and I understand our first Lifetime Diamond members will receive their invitations in the early part of 2015. At this time, this is all the information I have on Lifetime Diamond Status, but I will do my best to keep you all updated as I hear more!




levman wrote in a post on Jan 24:

The best source of info I've found is the email address [email protected]. It seems to be staffed with people dedicated to the Lifetime Diamond program.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Land-of-Miles
This has nothing to do with how much I like Starwood (a lot) compared to Hilton (a little) and everything to do with rational qualification across multiple chains when spending 109s of nights away.
OK, not looking to change your mind, you know what you are doing and this obviously works well for you. And traveling as much as you do makes this possible for you. For me, it would not make sense. I like HH hotels the best and once I make LT status if not at the end of this year, the first part of next, I will continue to funnel my stays to the chain because they are my favorite with the benefit of knowing I don't have a min # of stays to meet each year to keep status.
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Old Nov 20, 2016, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by smmrfld
Nope. Some of us have achieved that already via Mutual Fund.
+1...
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 12:26 am
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I just got off the phone with Hilton Honors and was told I have over 1100 nights and over 13 years as Diamond, so I am hoping that will get me the Lifetime Card. I just made Diamond for 2017, so they will be hearing from me again if I don't see the card soon. I am OK with the current thresholds. Since Diamond or Gold status can be bought, this lifetime status is one of the last true status symbols to show you earned it.

IMO, the Marriott Platinum lifetime program rewards spending more than nights, since I have over 930 nights with their program, but my spend is far below the threshold at around 1,350,000 (too many Fairfield Inns I guess) to get the card which is 750 nights + 2 million points. I didn't bother to try for platinum this year and have no SPG to transfer over, so I will probably have to have over the 1000 number of nights at Hilton to hit the highest lifetime status with Marriott.

-outoftown
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 1:32 am
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Originally Posted by outoftown
I just got off the phone with Hilton Honors and was told I have over 1100 nights and over 13 years as Diamond, so I am hoping that will get me the Lifetime Card. I just made Diamond for 2017, so they will be hearing from me again if I don't see the card soon. I am OK with the current thresholds. Since Diamond or Gold status can be bought, this lifetime status is one of the last true status symbols to show you earned it.

IMO, the Marriott Platinum lifetime program rewards spending more than nights, since I have over 930 nights with their program, but my spend is far below the threshold at around 1,350,000 (too many Fairfield Inns I guess) to get the card which is 750 nights + 2 million points. I didn't bother to try for platinum this year and have no SPG to transfer over, so I will probably have to have over the 1000 number of nights at Hilton to hit the highest lifetime status with Marriott.

-outoftown
I don't expect you'll be seeing the status till March or April of next year when they do the status sweep. I made LTD several months ago but am not expecting the official recognition to arrive till then.
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 6:18 am
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Assuming 30-50 paid nights a year, that means 20-30 years to earn LT Diamond. I think this is "right" so that the status is truly special. Btw, I am 2nd year Diamond with 100 nights.
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by outoftown
I just got off the phone with Hilton Honors and was told I have over 1100 nights and over 13 years as Diamond, so I am hoping that will get me the Lifetime Card.
-outoftown
What they told you over the phone is only total nights - Not total PAID nights.
Huge difference as to get lifetime, it needs to be paid. Hilton still doesn't have the ability to look at a screen and get paid nights. They need to open a case, do research and get back to you which takes a while.
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 6:34 pm
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Then we will find out if he is fine with current threshold. Love these people that reach a goal and say that they're OK with current setup.
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Old Nov 21, 2016, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by isle-hawg
OK, not looking to change your mind, you know what you are doing and this obviously works well for you. And traveling as much as you do makes this possible for you. For me, it would not make sense. I like HH hotels the best and once I make LT status if not at the end of this year, the first part of next, I will continue to funnel my stays to the chain because they are my favorite with the benefit of knowing I don't have a min # of stays to meet each year to keep status.
No one chain has a monopoly of good properties. Hilton is generally my third chain but it is very useful in the UK and Europe where IC's and Starwoods are thin on the ground.

With personal stays I push well over 100 nights a year of hotel stays (this calendar year to date across IHG, SPG and Hilton I have done circa 160 nights to date). The fewer nights you do the less opportunity you have to maximise benefits across multiple programmes but my priority since the HH Devaluation has always been to renew IC RA, then renew SPG Plat, then if necessary renew HH Diamond. I will renew this year on 30 stays, 31 nights and circa $4k with Hilton versus around 100 nights, 40 stays, and $60k with IHG (mainly IC).

Whilst the better Hiltons have a fairly solid (if dull) offering, I find standard rewards availability to be highly volatile and recategorisation of rooms to reduce standard reward availability together with the overall big devaluation from a few years ago pushed me well away from Hilton as first choice some years ago. So I really now look to minimum qualification after coming out of several years of comped Diamond status from BA.

What I find odd about LT Diamond for Hilton is that LT should work as an incentive to increase the spend trajectory with Hilton for those who might qualify. After 13 years of diamond I am still something like 600 paid nights short of LT. I don't think I will ever do that level of stays with Hilton realistically, it would take 20 more years at my current stay profile. If I only had say 150 nights to hit though I would probably make Hilton nights a very high priority for a year or 2.

LT status essentially brings in a lot more revenue from those close to the target by incentivising them yo make more stays in return for the small ongoing expense of covering LT Diamond benefits. If LT looks ridiculously hard yo achieve for most of us it isn't working as an incentive in the right way.
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Old Nov 27, 2016, 10:03 am
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I do wish Hilton had also brought in a Lifetime Gold program. I have no specific objection to the Lifetime Diamond requirements but I doubt that I am alone in that I would feel more incentivized to put in the work towards the stretch of Lifetime Diamond if I knew that I would have the fallback of Gold if I failed.
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Old Nov 27, 2016, 3:19 pm
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Stupid Question... Where can you check Days/HHD Year counts?

This is only via Phone/E-Mail or i am missing a link on those 7 pages...
(I Believe i am a 10+ Years Diamond, with probably 1000+ Days (in 15 Years))

I dont keep a count, For someone which is 200+ days away from home a year, you count the days at home rather outside... (I will get @Home Diamond soon at home according to my wife, I am missing 10 more nights this year 8-))
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Old Nov 28, 2016, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by ebzed
This is only via Phone/E-Mail or i am missing a link on those 7 pages...
(I Believe i am a 10+ Years Diamond, with probably 1000+ Days (in 15 Years))
The only way to find out is to have a "case opened" to determine your lifetime status. The easiest way I know of is to either call the Diamond desk and ask or ask a rep via the chat function when logged into your account. You will then get a reply via e-mail several days later with your lifetime info.

The phone and chat agents can see instantly how many overall days to include award stays that you have however they have no way to break out your paid nights that count for lifetime status.
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Old Dec 15, 2016, 1:18 pm
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New Ways to Earn Lifetime Diamond

Hi all,

A few months ago, we received some great feedback in the Q&A thread with our VP of Hilton HHonors, Aaron Glick. While the team explores a number of initiatives, one area that we could change quickly was our Lifetime Diamond qualifications. As of January 2017, we will grant Lifetime Diamond to all members who have met the following criteria:

• Members who have maintained Diamond status for at least 10 years (years do not need to be consecutive)

AND

• Have stayed at least 1,000 nights - either paid or reward (as you may know, only paid nights were eligible before)

OR

• Have accumulated 2 million Base Points since joining the Hilton HHonors program (this is a new feature to enable more members to enjoy Lifetime Diamond status; also as a reminder, only Base Points are eligible...Bonus Points earned via promotions, co-brand credit cards, or other means do not count towards status)


So now, there will be essentially two ways you can qualify for Lifetime Diamond:
1. 10 years at Diamond with Hilton HHonors + 1,000 nights (including paid and reward)
2. 10 years at Diamond + 2 million cumulative Base Points

An email notification will go out in February to members who have qualified for Lifetime Diamond as of December 31, 2016. If you want a sneak peek to find out if you will qualify, you can contact the Diamond Desk and the team will be happy to help.

Please reach out with any questions or comments, and I’ll be sure to share them directly with Aaron and team.

Thank you!
Lauren
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Old Dec 15, 2016, 1:39 pm
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Awesome Lauren. Thank you. Sent off my email to find where I stand with these new requirements.

Last edited by Baze; Dec 15, 2016 at 1:48 pm
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Old Dec 15, 2016, 1:55 pm
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Great to hear! I think that these developments bring LTD into closer reach for a lot more folks, which should be to the mutual benefit of all parties involved!
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Old Dec 15, 2016, 2:33 pm
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Thanks for including the reward nights. I am only at around 400-500 nights in total, but this could make me stay loyal for up to another ten years or so.
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