Consolidated "Hawaiʻi SuperFerry: Status, discussion, trip reports, questions" thread
Jul 30, 2003, 9:14 am
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Consolidated "Hawaiʻi SuperFerry: Status, discussion, trip reports, questions" thread
According to the Maui News, Norweigan Cruise Lines is going to start an inter island ferry service next year. If this is the case then won't Hawaiian and Aloha airlines be in big trouble? I would love to try out a nice leisurely ferry service instead of the craziness at the airport. I wish I had more details.
Does anyone know anything more on this?
Does anyone know anything more on this?
Jul 30, 2003, 9:34 am
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I don't know about that. Those seas looked pretty big to me. Would take a very large boat to smooth out the trip.
I also think the seas are too big for a hydrafoil.
I also think the seas are too big for a hydrafoil.
Jul 30, 2003, 1:14 pm
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Somewhat related thread...
http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...ML/000264.html
Inter-island ferry service has been bandied around for a while. Back in the 70's hydrofoil service was established (SeaFlite) between the islands, but the local sea conditions proved too rough and the equipment suffered from frequent breakdowns (imagine being stuck, rolling in 8'-10' seas for a few hours)
In the early 90's a ferry was tried from West O`ahu to downtown Hononolu, but failed due to low passenger use. There also has been limited service from Maui to Moloka`i and Lana`i at one time or another.
The channels between O'ahu and Kaua`i and Moloka`i can be pretty rough, and the channel between the Big Island and Maui can be some of the nastiest water you'd want to see in a small boat.
It's really a shame that there isn't a viable solution; Hawai`i, when viewed from the ocean, is an exhilarating experience.
[Edited to add a link to a news story that contains a recap of historical attempts at inter-island ferry service]
http://starbulletin.com/2002/03/10/business/story1.html
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http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...ML/000264.html
Inter-island ferry service has been bandied around for a while. Back in the 70's hydrofoil service was established (SeaFlite) between the islands, but the local sea conditions proved too rough and the equipment suffered from frequent breakdowns (imagine being stuck, rolling in 8'-10' seas for a few hours)
In the early 90's a ferry was tried from West O`ahu to downtown Hononolu, but failed due to low passenger use. There also has been limited service from Maui to Moloka`i and Lana`i at one time or another.
The channels between O'ahu and Kaua`i and Moloka`i can be pretty rough, and the channel between the Big Island and Maui can be some of the nastiest water you'd want to see in a small boat.
It's really a shame that there isn't a viable solution; Hawai`i, when viewed from the ocean, is an exhilarating experience.
[Edited to add a link to a news story that contains a recap of historical attempts at inter-island ferry service]
http://starbulletin.com/2002/03/10/business/story1.html
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Jul 30, 2003, 6:59 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by slawecki:
I don't know about that. Those seas looked pretty big to me. Would take a very large boat to smooth out the trip.
I also think the seas are too big for a hydrafoil.</font>
I don't know about that. Those seas looked pretty big to me. Would take a very large boat to smooth out the trip.
I also think the seas are too big for a hydrafoil.</font>
Jul 31, 2003, 8:05 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by slippahs:
The distances between the islands are less than 100 miles. From HNL to OGG is about 99 miles, and the harbors are close to the airports so the distance is fairly accurate. A two hour trip -- not that long on the open ocean and although it does look choppy from a plane, these ships can make the routes, etc.</font>
The distances between the islands are less than 100 miles. From HNL to OGG is about 99 miles, and the harbors are close to the airports so the distance is fairly accurate. A two hour trip -- not that long on the open ocean and although it does look choppy from a plane, these ships can make the routes, etc.</font>
I looked at it from boats, not planes, and the Eastern Shoreline beaches. I'm not talking about the seas between Maui and Molokai, but those rollers hitting the East side of the Islands frequently.
Jul 31, 2003, 10:39 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by slawecki:
I looked at it from boats, not planes, and the Eastern Shoreline beaches. I'm not talking about the seas between Maui and Molokai, but those rollers hitting the East side of the Islands frequently.</font>
I looked at it from boats, not planes, and the Eastern Shoreline beaches. I'm not talking about the seas between Maui and Molokai, but those rollers hitting the East side of the Islands frequently.</font>
The ferry service initially is not scheduled to run past Maui, so the "seas" at question here would be the Moloka`i channel.
Jul 31, 2003, 11:17 am
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What's the fuss about? There already is ferry service Maui-Molokai-Maui and Maui-Lanai-Maui. Given that a one-way ticket between Maui and Molokai is $40 I don't think the airlines have anything to be concerned about.
http://www.mauiprincess.com/molokai.htm
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http://www.mauiprincess.com/molokai.htm
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Jul 31, 2003, 11:39 am
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How long do they say the trip between islands would take and is it a car-ferry?
Jul 31, 2003, 12:18 pm
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You an catch the article at www.mauinews.com. Look under the July 27th headline, towards the bottom. The story is confusing and now I don't know quite what to make of it. Why would you need 2100 workers for an interisland service? If anyone can decipher it, would you kindly ley me in on the scoop?
Jul 31, 2003, 1:47 pm
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svenskaflicka After reading the article (thanks for the link, BTW), I think it needs to be clarified that what Norweigan Cruise Line offers is not really point-to-point ferry service, but leisure sightseeing cruising between the islands.
letiole thank you for reminding me of the Moloka`i to Maui ferry, which, if memory serves me, was initiated to help the residents of Moloka`i, which has the hightest unemployment rate in the state of Hawai`i, commute to job positions on Maui.
There is no auto ferry service in Hawai`i (well, there was service to and from Ford Island in Pearl Harbor before they built a bridge a few years ago). All cars that are moved inter-island are shipped on barges.
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letiole thank you for reminding me of the Moloka`i to Maui ferry, which, if memory serves me, was initiated to help the residents of Moloka`i, which has the hightest unemployment rate in the state of Hawai`i, commute to job positions on Maui.
There is no auto ferry service in Hawai`i (well, there was service to and from Ford Island in Pearl Harbor before they built a bridge a few years ago). All cars that are moved inter-island are shipped on barges.
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Jan 13, 2004, 10:15 am
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Ferries to be built for Interisland Service
And thus it begins...
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../ln/ln03a.html
Anyone forecast the downfall of the interisland carriers right now?
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http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/ar.../ln/ln03a.html
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">A Hawai'i firm planning to start an interisland ferry service within three years has signed an agreement to buy two newly built 900-passenger, 280-vehicle vessels for the service, officials said yesterday.
Hawaii Superferry said yesterday it hopes to have the first of the four-story high, 340-foot-long catamarans carrying passengers, vehicles and freight between O'ahu, Kaua'i, Maui and the Big Island beginning in 2006.
The high-speed ferries, costing about $75 million each, would be built in Alabama in a joint venture with an Australian firm that specializes in designing and constructing ocean-going vessels that have enough speed and stability to ensure passenger comfort, Superferry officials said.</font>
Hawaii Superferry said yesterday it hopes to have the first of the four-story high, 340-foot-long catamarans carrying passengers, vehicles and freight between O'ahu, Kaua'i, Maui and the Big Island beginning in 2006.
The high-speed ferries, costing about $75 million each, would be built in Alabama in a joint venture with an Australian firm that specializes in designing and constructing ocean-going vessels that have enough speed and stability to ensure passenger comfort, Superferry officials said.</font>
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Jan 13, 2004, 10:45 am
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I do, I do 
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Seriously, with the amount of time it takes to get to & on a plane, I'd love the option of a ferry ride.
I'd rather enjoy the sea while spending my 4 hours to go interisland than sit in the airport, as nice as it may be.
Mary
.Seriously, with the amount of time it takes to get to & on a plane, I'd love the option of a ferry ride.
I'd rather enjoy the sea while spending my 4 hours to go interisland than sit in the airport, as nice as it may be.
Mary
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Jan 14, 2004, 8:32 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mary2e:
I'd rather enjoy the sea while spending my 4 hours to go interisland than sit in the airport, as nice as it may be.</font>
I'd rather enjoy the sea while spending my 4 hours to go interisland than sit in the airport, as nice as it may be.</font>
Although I am one to get very very seasick. Living on an island, that's not good...
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