LAX-Hawaii Load Factors
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LAX-Hawaii Load Factors
Has anybody flown LAX to Hawaii on any airline other than American and what did the passenger loads look like? (The reason I'm asking is our last couple of trips LAX-Hawaii on American were sparse. Friends tell us they experienced the same thing). The flight attendants were openly concerned and all but begging passengers to rebook soon.
Hawaii, on the other hand, seemed almost back to it's overcrowded self. I'm wondering if Southwest really is tipping the market.
Hawaii, on the other hand, seemed almost back to it's overcrowded self. I'm wondering if Southwest really is tipping the market.
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I think it's a bit of a mixed bag, depends a lot on day of the week.
I flew LAX-LIH on UA a few weeks ago on a Friday and the 738 was about half full.
Later on a Sunday I flew KOA-LAX also on UA and the 739 was packed.
Relative flew AA LIH-LAX (32Q) on a Tuesday and it was 80% full in Y and sadly full up front (she ended #8 on upg list with my SWU).
I flew LAX-LIH on UA a few weeks ago on a Friday and the 738 was about half full.
Later on a Sunday I flew KOA-LAX also on UA and the 739 was packed.
Relative flew AA LIH-LAX (32Q) on a Tuesday and it was 80% full in Y and sadly full up front (she ended #8 on upg list with my SWU).
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I do Maui to west coast (and back) 1-2X a month and it's been inconsistent lately. I fly AS and it's full/near-full the majority of the time but there are some instances of pretty empty planes. The most notable post-Covid (meaning once Hawaii was again open for tourism) was just before Christmas when I was going SEA>OGG. I was by myself in FC (on an upgrade). The plane was maybe 1/3 full and I was blown away there were no other people with status that wanted an upgrade.
In my very non-scientific method of just watching planes at the airport and what fly over my house (I'm directly under the approach and can spot the carrier usually) AS, WN and HA are by far the big players. Delta is probably next and AA and UA are quite a bit behind them. I always think of AA as a largely business traveler carrier (again kind of an assumption) and with how closed down that sector has been it's not surprising their flights to vacation destinations are light these days (no traveling for biz = no miles to take the family on vacation, etc.).
In my very non-scientific method of just watching planes at the airport and what fly over my house (I'm directly under the approach and can spot the carrier usually) AS, WN and HA are by far the big players. Delta is probably next and AA and UA are quite a bit behind them. I always think of AA as a largely business traveler carrier (again kind of an assumption) and with how closed down that sector has been it's not surprising their flights to vacation destinations are light these days (no traveling for biz = no miles to take the family on vacation, etc.).
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I do Maui to west coast (and back) 1-2X a month and it's been inconsistent lately. I fly AS and it's full/near-full the majority of the time but there are some instances of pretty empty planes. The most notable post-Covid (meaning once Hawaii was again open for tourism) was just before Christmas when I was going SEA>OGG. I was by myself in FC (on an upgrade). The plane was maybe 1/3 full and I was blown away there were no other people with status that wanted an upgrade.
In my very non-scientific method of just watching planes at the airport and what fly over my house (I'm directly under the approach and can spot the carrier usually) AS, WN and HA are by far the big players. Delta is probably next and AA and UA are quite a bit behind them. I always think of AA as a largely business traveler carrier (again kind of an assumption) and with how closed down that sector has been it's not surprising their flights to vacation destinations are light these days (no traveling for biz = no miles to take the family on vacation, etc.).
In my very non-scientific method of just watching planes at the airport and what fly over my house (I'm directly under the approach and can spot the carrier usually) AS, WN and HA are by far the big players. Delta is probably next and AA and UA are quite a bit behind them. I always think of AA as a largely business traveler carrier (again kind of an assumption) and with how closed down that sector has been it's not surprising their flights to vacation destinations are light these days (no traveling for biz = no miles to take the family on vacation, etc.).
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