Aug 24, 2021, 6:56 pm
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Topic check - reminder to stay on topic
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Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
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This thread is superseded by: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2050531-new-covid-restrictions-city-county-honolulu-eff-8-25-2021-a.html
COVID Variant Surges and Impact to Hawaii Public Health Measures
Mar 17, 2020, 8:18 pm
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Gov. David Ige calls for 30-day suspension of visitors to Hawaii
The Governor of Hawaii can't actually ban you from coming - but asking you not come to Hawaii for 30 days and ban all activities next 15 days.
Relevant to United as they are the dominant carrier from the Mainland to Hawaii.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ds-first-case/
Relevant to United as they are the dominant carrier from the Mainland to Hawaii.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ds-first-case/
Mar 17, 2020, 8:30 pm
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The Governor of Hawaii can't actually ban you from coming - but asking you not come to Hawaii for 30 days and ban all activities next 15 days.
Relevant to United as they are the dominant carrier from the Mainland to Hawaii.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ds-first-case/
Relevant to United as they are the dominant carrier from the Mainland to Hawaii.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ds-first-case/
Mar 17, 2020, 8:44 pm
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The news conferences have been a fiasco every single day - he just isn't a decisive guy. He can't stop people from coming - but I expect many of the hotels to close soon - bars are directed to close, restaurants take out only, which will likely be a day or two to take effect - essentially all activities are closed so one can enjoy the beach though unless you are here now - been storming and will be all week.
Mar 19, 2020, 9:32 pm
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The news conferences have been a fiasco every single day - he just isn't a decisive guy. He can't stop people from coming - but I expect many of the hotels to close soon - bars are directed to close, restaurants take out only, which will likely be a day or two to take effect - essentially all activities are closed so one can enjoy the beach though unless you are here now - been storming and will be all week.
Apparently TSA is a cluster ex-HNL, a friend missed his flight due to a wait time of over an hour today. He did get rebooked.
Mar 22, 2020, 5:50 pm
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He finally did something.
-David
-David
Mar 23, 2020, 4:12 am
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Aug 21, 2020, 12:28 pm
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COVID-19 - HI Gov. Permits Counties to Establish Resort Travel Bubbles
So, Ige approved counties to create resort travel bubbies where visitors are allowed to stay within the resort/hotel grounds during the 14 day quarantine. Has anyone heard more details?
We own at Disney's Aulani and we will consider spending a week or so just at Aulani grounds. We typically spend 4 or 5 days at Aulani so a few more days wouldn't be too bad.
We own at Disney's Aulani and we will consider spending a week or so just at Aulani grounds. We typically spend 4 or 5 days at Aulani so a few more days wouldn't be too bad.
Aug 21, 2020, 1:56 pm
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No way. We have 10 days booked in December on Kohala coast. While we occasionally do a "resort day", a large part of the attraction of Hawaii is all the outdoor activity, hiking, exploring, snorkeling, paddling etc. So we would still cancel if this is a restriction. I can see that if you had small kids it might be OK for a few days. For those that were considering doing quarantine anyway maybe this isn't too bad an option, but this is not going to help the tourism situation very much.
Agree that this is "way off brand" for Hawaii:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ravel-bubbles/
Agree that this is "way off brand" for Hawaii:
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...ravel-bubbles/
Last edited by escapefromphl; Aug 21, 2020 at 2:11 pm Reason: typo
Aug 21, 2020, 3:13 pm
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Assuming the in-resort experience were acceptable, I would probably be good with a bubble trip to FS Maui. Not like we have a lot of alternatives.
Aug 21, 2020, 3:25 pm
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How would this be enforced? Would the resort install an electric fence like some people do for dogs, would there be electrified barbed wire like some cattle ranchers use, or would it be a GPS leg band like law enforcement uses?
Unless the resort has high walls and a single gated entry, it's hard to envision a workable way to do this that would satisfy the concerned people of Hawaii. Also, how m much do resorts want to monitor and restrict the free movement of guests? Guests could be annoyed by alarms going off every time someone attempts to breach the property. OTOH, the resort gets a lot more R&B sales, etc. from their captive guests.
It could be interesting to see how many resorts (especially luxury properties) and condo developments sign up for this.
Unless the resort has high walls and a single gated entry, it's hard to envision a workable way to do this that would satisfy the concerned people of Hawaii. Also, how m much do resorts want to monitor and restrict the free movement of guests? Guests could be annoyed by alarms going off every time someone attempts to breach the property. OTOH, the resort gets a lot more R&B sales, etc. from their captive guests.
It could be interesting to see how many resorts (especially luxury properties) and condo developments sign up for this.
Aug 21, 2020, 3:38 pm
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Thinking about this I don't see how this really helps. The cat is out of the bag, rates in Hawaii are now about the same as in California. Also these aren't really bubbles as the people staying here will interact with staff and other locals on the property. Maybe there are less opportunities for spread at a supermarket etc, but it's not a huge difference. So there is another motive for this policy?
Aug 21, 2020, 3:41 pm
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Thinking about this I don't see how this really helps. The cat is out of the bag, rates in Hawaii are now about the same as in California. Also these aren't really bubbles as the people staying here will interact with staff and other locals on the property. Maybe there are less opportunities for spread at a supermarket etc, but it's not a huge difference. So there is another motive for this policy?
Aug 21, 2020, 4:04 pm
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