Aug 24, 2021, 6:56 pm
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
Topic check - reminder to stay on topic
Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Mahalo,
slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
This thread is superseded by: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2050531-new-covid-restrictions-city-county-honolulu-eff-8-25-2021-a.html
Aloha - as a reminder to all, FT's rules specifically state: "FlyerTalk exists for the discussion of frequent flyer programs and the related travel experience. With the exception of the few areas specifically designated for the discussion of other topics, confine your comments as closely as possible to these topic areas and to the topic of the thread and forum in which you are posting." FlyinHawaiian and I recognize that it is easy to intertwine political commentary with the policies advanced by politicians that affect travel to Hawaii. However, we ask that you keep in mind the nature of this Hawaii forum and focus your attention on the policies and their impact on travel to/from/within Hawaii. Commentary about Hawaii's politicians are off-topic, belong in the OMNI forum, and will be deleted if posted on this thread. We ask for your kokua and cooperation. If you have any questions, please let us know.
Mahalo,
slippahs, Hawaii forum co-moderator
This thread is superseded by: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/2050531-new-covid-restrictions-city-county-honolulu-eff-8-25-2021-a.html
COVID Variant Surges and Impact to Hawaii Public Health Measures
Aug 22, 2020, 12:05 pm
#31
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,147
Aug 22, 2020, 12:54 pm
#32
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: TOA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott LTPP/Platinum Premier, Hyatt Lame-ist, UA !K
Posts: 20,061
Aug 22, 2020, 1:25 pm
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2012
Location: MCO
Programs: AA, B6, DL, EK, EY, QR, SQ, UA, Amex Plat, Marriott Tit, HHonors Gold
Posts: 12,809
Aug 22, 2020, 1:51 pm
#34
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,147
Aug 22, 2020, 3:15 pm
#35
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: None - previously UA
Posts: 4,867
Last edited by escapefromphl; Aug 22, 2020 at 4:48 pm Reason: typo
Aug 22, 2020, 4:10 pm
#36
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kamuela, HI
Programs: AA-Plat
Posts: 462
I wouldn't be surprised if locals were not permitted to lounge on resort bubble beaches. And with so many nicer beaches around, locals really should avoid them.
I'm surprised some beaches were/are closed off to locals by resort properties. Only recently did Waikoloa Land Company, the land owner of the Waikoloa Beach Resort, open up A-Bay to the public. The company that runs the Mauna Lani resort complex (on which the Auberge property of the same name sits) still has the beach park there closed off to anyone. So even if Hawaiians have rights to access the water for fishing or cultural practices, the resorts have managed to restrict it.
I'm surprised some beaches were/are closed off to locals by resort properties. Only recently did Waikoloa Land Company, the land owner of the Waikoloa Beach Resort, open up A-Bay to the public. The company that runs the Mauna Lani resort complex (on which the Auberge property of the same name sits) still has the beach park there closed off to anyone. So even if Hawaiians have rights to access the water for fishing or cultural practices, the resorts have managed to restrict it.
Aug 22, 2020, 4:42 pm
#37
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Colorado
Programs: UA Gold (.85 MM), HH Diamond, SPG Platinum (LT Gold), Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 5,663
I wouldn't be surprised if locals were not permitted to lounge on resort bubble beaches. And with so many nicer beaches around, locals really should avoid them.
I'm surprised some beaches were/are closed off to locals by resort properties. Only recently did Waikoloa Land Company, the land owner of the Waikoloa Beach Resort, open up A-Bay to the public. The company that runs the Mauna Lani resort complex (on which the Auberge property of the same name sits) still has the beach park there closed off to anyone. So even if Hawaiians have rights to access the water for fishing or cultural practices, the resorts have managed to restrict it.
I'm surprised some beaches were/are closed off to locals by resort properties. Only recently did Waikoloa Land Company, the land owner of the Waikoloa Beach Resort, open up A-Bay to the public. The company that runs the Mauna Lani resort complex (on which the Auberge property of the same name sits) still has the beach park there closed off to anyone. So even if Hawaiians have rights to access the water for fishing or cultural practices, the resorts have managed to restrict it.
Aug 22, 2020, 4:53 pm
#38
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Colorado
Programs: UA Gold (.85 MM), HH Diamond, SPG Platinum (LT Gold), Hertz PC, National EE
Posts: 5,663
Thats somewhat location dependent. Many of us between Kaanapali and Kapalua frequent the same beaches that are fronted by the resorts, such as Kaanapali, Napili, Kapalua, and Fleming. Especially now, as they are empty other than locals. I like my long walks from the house to Kaanapali for example, good exercise.
That said, I have my doubts that hotel demand will be high enough to justify participating in the bubble.
That said, I have my doubts that hotel demand will be high enough to justify participating in the bubble.
Aug 22, 2020, 5:30 pm
#39
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,223
My husband and I would have no problems just vegging at the GW in March. However, since we are bring our grandkids and their parents, who are very active, and will want to go here, there and everywhere, I think it would be a real dilemma.
Aug 22, 2020, 8:44 pm
#40
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: san francisco.
Programs: Marriott Ti, OW Ruby
Posts: 1,852
I didn't know the hotel was open at the moment?
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; Aug 23, 2020 at 5:39 am Reason: removed quote
Aug 22, 2020, 8:58 pm
#41
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: New York / Hawaii
Programs: UA Global Services, HH Diamond
Posts: 5,178
Aug 27, 2020, 1:27 pm
#42
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,621
Plan to head to the Mauna Kea beach tomorrow, I was told access was unfettered fwiw. I'll check out Hapuna Beach on my way up north as well and report back later.
Last edited by FlyinHawaiian; Aug 27, 2020 at 1:51 pm Reason: repair broken quote
Jul 7, 2021, 11:55 am
#43
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX/TPE
Programs: United 1K, JAL Sapphire, SPG Lifetime Platinum, National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 42,231
County Mayors Call for a Tourism Pause
I am not sure why the local county mayors think they do not have the authority to slow tourism, they can certainly implement capacity controls on hotels and put a stop to STRs, although this is something else the Governor's somewhat dingbat way of thinking seems to have introduced, and he should be the one taking action.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hawaii-ma...113100066.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hawaii-ma...113100066.html
"Revenge vacation" season is now moving full speed ahead, and while many travelers are racing to book a trip after a year of being stuck at home, the mayor of one tropical island is asking airlines to slow down: Maui, Hawaii.
"I have been talking with different airlines and … we're asking for just a pause, if you want to use that term," Maui County mayor Michael Victorino said during a press conference on June 29. "We don't have the authority to say stop, but we're asking the powers to be to help us."
"I have been talking with different airlines and … we're asking for just a pause, if you want to use that term," Maui County mayor Michael Victorino said during a press conference on June 29. "We don't have the authority to say stop, but we're asking the powers to be to help us."
Jul 7, 2021, 7:38 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: No. California
Programs: UA MP HH LTD
Posts: 2,041
Seems a dumb move to me. Seems like the incessant need to blame tourists for everything. Are there a huge number of people flying over with no hotel or car reservations? That should be a limiting factor there. I am not aware the airlines have increased capacity above pre-Covid.
Jul 7, 2021, 9:58 pm
#45
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX/TPE
Programs: United 1K, JAL Sapphire, SPG Lifetime Platinum, National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 42,231
Seems a dumb move to me. Seems like the incessant need to blame tourists for everything. Are there a huge number of people flying over with no hotel or car reservations? That should be a limiting factor there. I am not aware the airlines have increased capacity above pre-Covid.