What city for 2 days?
#16
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Unfortunately, Miles & More redemptions are going to save you virtually nothing on economy flights within Europe. The cash element of an award flight is nearly always almost as much as just buying a cash ticket. The above example is fairly typical and is one of the reasons I ditched M&M. The program has its uses, but short-haul economy is definitely not one of them.
I would agree with other posters that, depending on your interests, Munich or Berlin is probably the best introduction to Germany. Köln (Cologne) would also be a solid choice.
Zürich is also a nice place to visit, but as already mentioned, will be significantly more expensive than anywhere in Germany.
I would agree with other posters that, depending on your interests, Munich or Berlin is probably the best introduction to Germany. Köln (Cologne) would also be a solid choice.
Zürich is also a nice place to visit, but as already mentioned, will be significantly more expensive than anywhere in Germany.
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I just looked at LHR-ZRH for some random dates. I did find decent availability, multiple LX flights open each day I searched for.
The price was 35k miles plus 67 GBP. That's terrible value. Cash on BA for those dates is 87 GBP. A cash booking with LX is 95 GBP.
I agree with you that ZRH is a nice city but nevertheless, it's a bad idea to burn M&M miles for an economy flight LHR-ZRH.
The price was 35k miles plus 67 GBP. That's terrible value. Cash on BA for those dates is 87 GBP. A cash booking with LX is 95 GBP.
I agree with you that ZRH is a nice city but nevertheless, it's a bad idea to burn M&M miles for an economy flight LHR-ZRH.
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Bad value still. At the very least, M&M miles are worth 1 cpm when redeeming for long-haul C and F. Often, you can get a value higher than 2 cpm.
Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.
Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.
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Bad value still. At the very least, M&M miles are worth 1 cpm when redeeming for long-haul C and F. Often, you can get a value higher than 2 cpm.
Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.
Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.