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Old May 16, 2018, 10:49 am
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Unfortunately, Miles & More redemptions are going to save you virtually nothing on economy flights within Europe. The cash element of an award flight is nearly always almost as much as just buying a cash ticket. The above example is fairly typical and is one of the reasons I ditched M&M. The program has its uses, but short-haul economy is definitely not one of them.

I would agree with other posters that, depending on your interests, Munich or Berlin is probably the best introduction to Germany. Köln (Cologne) would also be a solid choice.

Zürich is also a nice place to visit, but as already mentioned, will be significantly more expensive than anywhere in Germany.
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Old May 16, 2018, 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by 1flyer
I just looked at LHR-ZRH for some random dates. I did find decent availability, multiple LX flights open each day I searched for.

The price was 35k miles plus 67 GBP. That's terrible value. Cash on BA for those dates is 87 GBP. A cash booking with LX is 95 GBP.

I agree with you that ZRH is a nice city but nevertheless, it's a bad idea to burn M&M miles for an economy flight LHR-ZRH.
I was thinking as a mileage bargain, 15000 miles plus 66 GBP.
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Old May 17, 2018, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by slickvik
I was thinking as a mileage bargain, 15000 miles plus 66 GBP.
Bad value still. At the very least, M&M miles are worth 1 cpm when redeeming for long-haul C and F. Often, you can get a value higher than 2 cpm.

Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.
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Old May 18, 2018, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by The_Bouncer
Zürich is also a nice place to visit, but as already mentioned, will be significantly more expensive than anywhere in Germany.
Have you been to Sylt recently?
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Old May 18, 2018, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
Have you been to Sylt recently?
No I haven't - but I work in Lindau.

OK - Zürich is more expensive than almost anywhere in Germany!
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Old May 18, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
Have you been to Sylt recently?
Cheap place Also in some parts Munich is on par these days. But agree, whole Switzerland is now "a pharmacy"
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Old May 18, 2018, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by 1flyer
Bad value still. At the very least, M&M miles are worth 1 cpm when redeeming for long-haul C and F. Often, you can get a value higher than 2 cpm.

Note that if you don't have sufficient miles for a long-haul premium cabin redemption, perhaps the new mileage pooling might be an option. Or redeeming from a different program. With BAEC, for example, short-haul awards out of LON can be decent value.
If I do a redemption it will be totally last minute as the day I go will be based on if I can get Wimbledon tickets or not (unlikely, I know). So in that sense maybe it will be a good deal.
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