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brooklynmatt Nov 21, 2012 6:46 pm

Just got Black card and checked out the Amphora lounge, love the open bar! Just wondering:

How long can you stay there before getting booted out?
What other casinos can I take the black card to and status match? Any gems?

nrr Nov 26, 2012 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by brooklynmatt (Post 19726913)
Just got Black card and checked out the Amphora lounge, love the open bar! Just wondering:

How long can you stay there before getting booted out?
What other casinos can I take the black card to and status match? Any gems?

(1)if its not busy, you could hang out for a while--but at busy times the lines (to get in) can be long, and so they would need to open up space for the waitees.
(2)In AC, I think Harrah's (now Ceasars) system and Revel will do status match.
(3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D

brooklynmatt Nov 29, 2012 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by nrr (Post 19749030)
(1)if its not busy, you could hang out for a while--but at busy times the lines (to get in) can be long, and so they would need to open up space for the waitees.
(2)In AC, I think Harrah's (now Ceasars) system and Revel will do status match.
(3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D

Nice one thanks might check out the Ceasars match as that can txf to Vegas I believe..

3. I like my booze, but you could probably kick me out on my 3rd Ketel Martini or Makers Old Fashioned and I wouldn't grumble. Well I would grumble, but that would be to do with the booze, but I would be happy :)

mjcewl1284 Jan 15, 2013 1:56 am


Originally Posted by nrr (Post 19749030)
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(3)Open bar can mean lots of things: (a)self serve liquor, (b)unlimited drinks delivered by the bar tender or server. At Borgata (as far I know), it is (b), and eventually they may send you away.:D

At the Amphora Lounge, IME I've never been cut off by their bartenders (we're talking 4 or 5 vodka crans later). I hold my liquor pretty well and probably someone who looks really drunk might be turned away. Just my two cents.

nrr Jan 15, 2013 6:13 pm


Originally Posted by mjcewl1284 (Post 20049247)
At the Amphora Lounge, IME I've never been cut off by their bartenders (we're talking 4 or 5 vodka crans later). I hold my liquor pretty well and probably someone who looks really drunk might be turned away. Just my two cents.

I go to the AL for the food, and NEVER sit at the bar, so have no experience with their bartenders.

brooklynmatt Jan 17, 2013 7:46 am

Had a couple of trips since I last posted here, I am a huge fan of the AL. They are very liquor focused which is fine, but I would prefer a bit more quality wine and beer (the borgata in general is lacking in good beer, but they do have the HopDevil now on tap in some bars which helps).

Anybody else do game the system on the table match plays? :)

Rookie3 Jan 17, 2013 9:11 am

Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.

nrr Jan 17, 2013 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by Rookie3 (Post 20066826)
Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.

Yes, they will match Trump and CET. I doubt that a 7* in CET will be seeded in at Titanium level--but Diamond will get Black Label.

baccarat_king Jan 17, 2013 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by Rookie3 (Post 20066826)
Does anyone know if Borgata has a status matching policy? I haven't been there in a while but still get offers - however, I'm more inclined to use CET casinos if I can't match to a black card to get better access.

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brooklynmatt Jan 18, 2013 6:49 am

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I'm new to the whole blogging thing so if you would like to leave comments about the content I would be very receptive to your feedback, how well I explained my idea of arbitrate betting the match plays for almost zero risk etc. Cheers.

I also talk about my overall 'haul' in comps for 2012 which I valued at about $13K

baccarat_king Jan 18, 2013 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by brooklynmatt (Post 20066037)
Had a couple of trips since I last posted here, I am a huge fan of the AL. They are very liquor focused which is fine, but I would prefer a bit more quality wine and beer (the borgata in general is lacking in good beer, but they do have the HopDevil now on tap in some bars which helps).

Anybody else do game the system on the table match plays? :)

I like Amphora, but it doesn't compare to the lounges at Mohegan Sun. While I'm not a big beer drinker, they have quite a few on tap including Guinness. And, I'm quite the fan of Guinness + Moët, on a few occasions. Also, no comparison on the premium liquor selection. All the vodkas (Belvedere, Goose, Ketel, etc. etc.), 4+ premium tequilas, 18 year old scotch, 20 year port, and my favorite 100 year Grand Marnier (and that's just a small sample). Additionally, lounges (3 regular) have at least one that is open 24/7 + there is smoking (yep, I'm a cigar person) in one of the lounges.

With regard to table match plays @ Borg, I get around $1200 to $2500 per month; and tend to play them off (as $25s) on the pass line at craps. Only thing better would be high-limit blackjack, but I prefer the lower limit variance of $25s (instead of $100/$200 per hand match-plays for high limit blackjack)

Borgata is by far my favorite property in AC (I visit approximately once per month). But, Mohegan Sun is my favorite casino in the area.

Of course, Borgata also gets a slight edge on gaming, since they have a big baccarat game that is (usually) open on Saturday evenings. (and that, is by far, my favorite casino game)

brooklynmatt Jan 18, 2013 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 20078139)
I like Amphora, but it doesn't compare to the lounges at Mohegan Sun. While I'm not a big beer drinker, they have quite a few on tap including Guinness. And, I'm quite the fan of Guinness + Moët, on a few occasions. Also, no comparison on the premium liquor selection. All the vodkas (Belvedere, Goose, Ketel, etc. etc.), 4+ premium tequilas, 18 year old scotch, 20 year port, and my favorite 100 year Grand Marnier (and that's just a small sample). Additionally, lounges (3 regular) have at least one that is open 24/7 + there is smoking (yep, I'm a cigar person) in one of the lounges.

With regard to table match plays @ Borg, I get around $1200 to $2500 per month; and tend to play them off (as $25s) on the pass line at craps. Only thing better would be high-limit blackjack, but I prefer the lower limit variance of $25s (instead of $100/$200 per hand match-plays for high limit blackjack)

Borgata is by far my favorite property in AC (I visit approximately once per month). But, Mohegan Sun is my favorite casino in the area.

Of course, Borgata also gets a slight edge on gaming, since they have a big baccarat game that is (usually) open on Saturday evenings. (and that, is by far, my favorite casino game)

Why would you play them off as $25s? Do you still get full value doing that? I watch folk picking $25 instead of the $50 or $100 option and it blows my mind. I'm getting $200 a pop now, with either $100 or $150 with them per trip, I always print out the max.

Never been to CT for gaming, do you think they would match my Black card there?

I like the Borg too, but the best two restaurants for me are Knife&Fork (happy hour apps at the bar 1/2 price!!!) and Revel Amada tasting menu.

brooklynmatt Jan 18, 2013 6:26 pm

Ps I dealt Bac in London, the vig was calculated by hand and you had to pay and take so that the player never had more than 3 quarters, 4 singles, 4 nickels at any time. It was an art.

baccarat_king Jan 19, 2013 8:20 am


Originally Posted by brooklynmatt (Post 20078696)
Ps I dealt Bac in London, the vig was calculated by hand and you had to pay and take so that the player never had more than 3 quarters, 4 singles, 4 nickels at any time. It was an art.

Love it, more baccarat stories, please. :D

Last Saturday night @borg, two Macao midi-baccarat tables were operating in high limit (big baccarat was closed), both $100 tables.

About a half hour after I got there, an Asian lady took an old crumpled plastic bag out of her purse. Cash buy in, $75,000.

Yep, it took them a few minutes to do that count + drop. :D

mjcewl1284 Jan 20, 2013 1:06 am

Anyone at the B? I am. So much foot traffic going through the area due to the Borgata Winter Open. Should be a great trip for me, I leave this coming Tues.


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