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nrr May 24, 2011 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by Panasonic1010 (Post 16438102)
That's impressive, I was there the same night as you and sat down with $200 at the $15 table. I played about 4-5 hours. I got no comped rooms, etc. no offers at all. I'm highly jealous. Did you play anything else, is this your first time, etc.?

The Fiore Suite is much better than the regular rooms at the Borgata. The regular rooms at the Waterclub are nicer/newer than the Borgata rooms but also more $. If I had the option between a regular water club room and a Fiore Suite. I would probably take the suite. (huge bathroom, couch, spacious, small foyer.)

The rooms in the Waterclub are smaller than the normal rooms in the regular building; but the corner rooms are designated Vista and are very nice. The suites in the WC (have a special entrance and I believe are on the highest floors) are these nicer than Fiore Suites?

raym257 May 29, 2011 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by Panasonic1010 (Post 16438102)
That's impressive, I was there the same night as you and sat down with $200 at the $15 table. I played about 4-5 hours. I got no comped rooms, etc. no offers at all. I'm highly jealous. Did you play anything else, is this your first time, etc.?

The Fiore Suite is much better than the regular rooms at the Borgata. The regular rooms at the Waterclub are nicer/newer than the Borgata rooms but also more $. If I had the option between a regular water club room and a Fiore Suite. I would probably take the suite. (huge bathroom, couch, spacious, small foyer.)

Thanks for the info everyone........lol wonder if we played at the same table, I did play like only $20 in slots with my card but don't like slots much so spent the rest of time at BJ, also yea this was my first time using their card at the casino so they could track me.

baccarat_king Jun 4, 2011 9:33 am

another data-point....

I don't play often at the Borg;

But, $105 average at dice (not including odds) for 3 hours 30 minutes will get your $52 in comp dollars + 'regular' rooms most nights (with exception to Saturday nights).

bgriff Jun 4, 2011 9:54 am

Slightly OT, but I was disappointed to see that Borgata has changed most of their blackjack tables (presumably the cheaper ones) from dealer stands on soft 17, to dealer hits on soft 17, which is in line with the rest of AC and is much worse for the player. Perhaps this was commercially necessary, but I for one will be moving my play to other regional casinos, like those in CT and perhaps the Bethlehem Sands, where the blackjack rules are still much more player-favorable.

ch3ss Apr 16, 2012 4:20 pm

BK:

I never did make it to Borgota... shame on me.....

What kind of love are they giving players when it comes to comps ?

I usually play about $50-$75 a roll on Craps, and about $40-$60 on Roulette, and then of course maybe about 250-400 on Slots just to give it a spin...

BankRoll is usually between 2500-4k.....

gengar Apr 17, 2012 8:17 am


Originally Posted by ch3ss (Post 18405649)
What kind of love are they giving players when it comes to comps ?

I went for a bachelor party a few weeks ago and the comps were awful - front desk agent linked my players account and said the comps would come straight off the final room bill, and I would estimate only about 10-12% of ADT.

ch3ss Apr 17, 2012 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by gengar (Post 18409124)
I went for a bachelor party a few weeks ago and the comps were awful - front desk agent linked my players account and said the comps would come straight off the final room bill, and I would estimate only about 10-12% of ADT.

OUCH really.....

Jimgotkp Sep 16, 2012 11:31 pm

I opened a card a few years ago but never really played until quite recently. After a few hours of playing the slots with $2.50-$5 bets, I decided to call it quits while leaving positive. I noticed on my account online that I have $20 comp dollars and $10 slot dollars after playing that one day along with a room offer. Should I expect anything else via mail/e-mail? I doubt I would even be considered a worthy player deserving of comps but wanted to get some input from you guys..

I was thinking about going to a CET property due to the promo they have since I don't have a card with them but decided to go to the Borg instead.

bgriff Sep 17, 2012 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Jimgotkp (Post 19328073)
I opened a card a few years ago but never really played until quite recently. After a few hours of playing the slots with $2.50-$5 bets, I decided to call it quits while leaving positive. I noticed on my account online that I have $20 comp dollars and $10 slot dollars after playing that one day along with a room offer. Should I expect anything else via mail/e-mail? I doubt I would even be considered a worthy player deserving of comps but wanted to get some input from you guys..

I was thinking about going to a CET property due to the promo they have since I don't have a card with them but decided to go to the Borg instead.

You may get a mailer from them about the offers you've seen, but everything you are offered will also appear on your account online -- there are no paper coupons to bring in or anything (except sometimes for access to the nightclub, if that is of any interest), all offers are electronic or printed from kiosks at the property.

nrr Sep 17, 2012 11:41 pm

using slot dollars at borgata vs revel vs cet system comment
 
From playing slots at various casinos you will earn free slot play for future visits.
At both Borgata and Revel, you do not earn comp dollars (or the equivalent) from your play with "bonus" slot dollars. [This feature is NOT mentioned in their literature.]
In CET (=Harrahs system), you do earn base tier credits from your play with "free" slot dollars.

baccarat_king Sep 19, 2012 11:46 am


Originally Posted by ch3ss (Post 18405649)
BK:

I never did make it to Borgota... shame on me.....

What kind of love are they giving players when it comes to comps ?

I usually play about $50-$75 a roll on Craps, and about $40-$60 on Roulette, and then of course maybe about 250-400 on Slots just to give it a spin...

BankRoll is usually between 2500-4k.....


Originally Posted by gengar (Post 18409124)
I went for a bachelor party a few weeks ago and the comps were awful - front desk agent linked my players account and said the comps would come straight off the final room bill, and I would estimate only about 10-12% of ADT.


Originally Posted by ch3ss (Post 18411932)
OUCH really.....

Tables games such as baccarat or craps @ Borgata earn around $15-$20 in comps per hour per $100/average bet. Usually a $150 (or so average) will get you rooms 6 days a week (Sunday to Friday), with $99 to $139 Saturday nights. Will also earn you promotional match plays ($400 to $600 per month) + offers for merchandise, some shows, and events (such as blackjack tournaments, low level - $20K or so prize pools). This is, of course, based on at least 4 hours of play per day. Step it up to around $250/average bet, and you will also see those Saturday nights being comp'ed in the future. Borgata is very good about discretionary comps. You can usually snag a comp for the steakhouse or any venue that does NOT come off your points at least once during your trip. (ask for it at the tables, at least 20 minutes or so before you plan on leaving). Also if you do log the 4 hours per day, they will often comp off any of the room rates (such as a $99 Saturday night) at the end of your stay. Hosts are very good, IMO, at Borgata.

bgriff Sep 19, 2012 12:16 pm


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 19344970)
Tables games such as baccarat or craps @ Borgata earn around $15-$20 in comps per hour per $100/average bet. Usually a $150 (or so average) will get you rooms 6 days a week (Sunday to Friday), with $99 to $139 Saturday nights. Will also earn you promotional match plays ($400 to $600 per month) + offers for merchandise, some shows, and events (such as blackjack tournaments, low level - $20K or so prize pools). This is, of course, based on at least 4 hours of play per day. Step it up to around $250/average bet, and you will also see those Saturday nights being comp'ed in the future. Borgata is very good about discretionary comps. You can usually snag a comp for the steakhouse or any venue that does NOT come off your points at least once during your trip. (ask for it at the tables, at least 20 minutes or so before you plan on leaving). Also if you do log the 4 hours per day, they will often comp off any of the room rates (such as a $99 Saturday night) at the end of your stay. Hosts are very good, IMO, at Borgata.

I have found that the room comps are roughly related to your average comps earned per trip on recent trips (thus the amount they can expect to get from you on your next trip). So you can get comp rooms even with lower play than what's described here -- typically if you earn $30-40 in comp dollars per trip (roughly 6-8 hours of $25-50/hand blackjack) you will get 5 nights a week available comped plus some Fridays.

Until recently I had never seen a Saturday night comp on my account, even during the off-peak season, but after a recent trip which would have put my average comp dollars per trip in the $50-60 range I am currently seeing most upcoming Saturdays available comped. I suspect this may be in part due to increasing competition from Revel, though as of last weekend the Borgata casino was packed while the Revel casino was most definitely not (multiple empty $10 tables at 7pm on Saturday) so Borgata probably doesn't have that much to worry about.

Borgata also recently (since January) renovated its rooms in the main tower, almost certainly due to competitive pressure from Revel, and they're now very nice, much improved from having been getting rather worn.

gengar Oct 10, 2012 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by baccarat_king (Post 19344970)
Tables games such as baccarat or craps @ Borgata earn around $15-$20 in comps per hour per $100/average bet.

For BJ, that's atrocious comps relative to ADT (although still better than what I got that weekend).

onfo Nov 19, 2012 4:41 pm

A bit OT, but are the offer codes transferable for discounted rooms? A buddy of mine is organizing a weekend there in January, and I am wondering if there is any way to notch down the $249 rate.

bgriff Nov 19, 2012 4:54 pm


Originally Posted by onfo (Post 19713525)
A bit OT, but are the offer codes transferable for discounted rooms? A buddy of mine is organizing a weekend there in January, and I am wondering if there is any way to notch down the $249 rate.

Most likely no (there usually aren't offer codes, the rates are just tied to your Borgata account). You could call and ask about group rates if it's a large party -- I believe that requires at least 10 rooms. If anyone in the party has a Borgata card already, though, it would be worth inquiring about their room rate, since they may have at least a small discount available even if they haven't been to the Borgata in a while.


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