yojimbo

$500+ for a hotel room in AC?!?!

Seems excessive to me, but I guess they will charge what the traffic will bear.

I'm not a high-roller and have had pretty good results with comp rooms at the Borgata...mostly during the week.

baccarat_king

That's the catch; the only time hotel rooms in Atlantic City are expensive (and more difficult to get COMP) are weekends (more so, Saturday night); and on holidays.

They give away rooms (like candy) mid-week.

naps8906

Hehehehe... That's why you fly out to vegas. As soon as borgay started getting cheap, I stopped going. MGM treats me way better. And with MGM pulling out of borgay recently, I probably will stop going altogether. They demoted me from black card after I stop going for a year (I think i went twice last year), I was like who cares. I think I earned around $500 in comps with both trip combined. Hehehehe, but I didn't bother going back to get the other $500, not worth it.

MGM gives me free play chips, free rooms on weekends, and food comps. Games also have better odds, so you end up losing less over the long haul. It more than pays for the flight. Problem is the length of trip...

blackcardmember

Borgata is honestly driving me nuts, i've retained my black card for the past 3 years, meaning i complete my $1000 comps every year to carry it over and still i'm getting horrific rates for Friday and Saturday stays.
Friday, i paid $279 for Borgata. Saturday, I blew $499+tax to stay in the Water Club since they were already sold out on Brogy,.. Luckily made up all that money at the tables. They gave me Sun free which i didnt stay anyway. Whats the point of free weekdays, there is no fun and no crowd on Mon, Tue, Wed etc... I'm really getting pissed off since the black card doesn't get you anywhere these days, except some comps you can use to cover your wining and dining... I think it's time to fly out to Vegas.. (Especially given the freezing cold on the east coast these days!!!)

Question is this: Can i use my black card in Vegas to get any special deals in Vegas? Doesnt Boyd own MGM or something as well? Please advise... I know in Borgy if you bring your other "black card" from a different casino, they upgrade you to the black...
Thanks...

bgriff

Borgata used to be owned 50/50 between Boyd and MGM, but that is no longer in effect; Boyd's only Vegas casinos are not anywhere that the Borgata clientele is likely to be interested in, and they have a separate player's card anyway. You could try seeing if any of the casinos would give you anything for your black card, but the matching programs are mostly an AC phenomenon, and the Vegas casinos likely look down on AC anyway (and are unaware that the Borgata is actually fairly nice) so it would be hard to convince them just by showing the card that you're worth anything.

That said, if you play enough to be Black Label, and if you go to Vegas and focus your play on one brand like MGM Resorts (which owns Bellagio, MGM, Mandalay, Mirage, and others), it shouldn't be hard to start getting comps there as well, and they will likely be willing to retroactively comp some of your room charges at check-out if you play at the same company's properties as where you stay, and if you play enough during your stay. In general the nicer Vegas properties are much stingier with free room offers to low- and mid-level players than the Borgata is, even on weekdays, but at the least you'll get discounted room rate offers and the potential to have the room comped at check-out.

The only brand that will seamlessly give you credit between AC and Vegas is Caesar's (Harrah's) Total Rewards, but unless you're a slot player that's not likely to be a good choice in general.

jraindc

Every experience is different, but I'm a table games player and find Caesars Properties to be very generous in Vegas, at least with room comps. I suggest you play at Harrah's in AC if you want to use the comps in Vegas. At least enough so you'll get room offers for Vegas.

marben

So, it sounds like having a black card is kind of a bust. Is there any benefit that makes it worth it? Maybe Amphora (sp?) Lounge?

nrr

Don't forget that the Amphora Lounge (for black card only) charges $10/person each time you visit--payable in comp dollars.

nrr

Vegas has overbuilt and has lots of (vacant) rooms, probably more so on the weekend, since many conventions are weekday affairs. [CES which had been a weekend event for the last 3 years, will be a weekday show in 2012.]

marben

I tried sleeping at the Sheraton Convention Center off SPG pts one weekend at the Borgata, I heard it was a popular way to avoid the weekend rate. I was expecting a pretty good hotel, but I don't think I would do it again. The lobby seems nice but it stops there. Has anyone else tried this and had a different experience?

sherry126

I don't know about anyone else but I love my black label at borgata. Ten comp dollars for buffet, which I think is delicious and Amphora is well worth the ten comp dollars; food is awesome. You get slot dollars put onto your card every month, no hassles with going to the cashier and standing in line, slot tourneys, and great rooms. And their machines pay out more.
Another thing about Borgata, they don't make their red label people feel ignored like Harrahs does- I hate the system over there. For me, it's an easy choice.

nrr

At one time you could redeem comp dollars for "vacation certificates" valid at any Boyd or MGM properties--these even covered tips, since they were essentially a "cash" item. Several months ago they discontinued the vc program (and their ties with MGM and Boyd). However the Borgata buffet and most of their other restaurants have food a step above what I've found in other AC casinos is one of the reasons I haven't quit going to Borgata.
PS: Slot players are treated better (in general) everywhere over table game players.

raym257

My experience, I just came back from Borgata after staying on Saturday night, I changed a $100 at a BJ table and gave them my card, it was $15 min a hand, I spent over 3 hours on the table, that intial $100 lasted me the whole time I was there, I figured I spent about $1000 over the 3 hours all together. All I got comp'd was $7 dollars. I thought I would have gotten more, meh.
I thought it sucked but then I got home yesterday and checked online and see they at least gave me comp rooms for Borgata and the Waterclub from May-Aug, mostly weekdays Mon-thurs with like two sundays, at least that made me a feel a bit better.
Also anybody ever stayed at the Fiore Suite in Borgata? Is it big? and is it better or worse than a regular waterclub room?
thanks

sherry126

Fiore Suites are bigger rooms, not a separate bedroom, Huge bathroom with double sinks and big shower as well as a separate bathtub big enough to swim in! Fresh chilled water waiting at check in. There is a usable fridge in the room (unlike the water club).. I wouldn't say better or worse, just different.

Panasonic1010

That's impressive, I was there the same night as you and sat down with $200 at the $15 table. I played about 4-5 hours. I got no comped rooms, etc. no offers at all. I'm highly jealous. Did you play anything else, is this your first time, etc.?

The Fiore Suite is much better than the regular rooms at the Borgata. The regular rooms at the Waterclub are nicer/newer than the Borgata rooms but also more $. If I had the option between a regular water club room and a Fiore Suite. I would probably take the suite. (huge bathroom, couch, spacious, small foyer.)