To gazole or not to gazole?
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To gazole or not to gazole?
Will be doing a long-ish road trip through France later this year. NCE/MRS area via TLS/BIQ to NTE and returning at BOD. Europcar is quoting ~$90 more for a econ diesel (e.g., 4Dr VW Polo) than for a 2Dr mini (e.g., Fiat 500) or $60 for a 4Dr essence econ (Peugeot 207).
As for fuel consumption comparison, did a 6 week road trip last winter from NTE-DNR-BES-BOD-TLS-PGF-NCE (no record of mileage but it was lots) that used EUR 518 of gazole in a Fiat Gran Punto.
Wondering what the break-even calculation is for renting a diesel? I think the discount to essence is some 10-15% these days vs. some 30% 16 years ago?
As for fuel consumption comparison, did a 6 week road trip last winter from NTE-DNR-BES-BOD-TLS-PGF-NCE (no record of mileage but it was lots) that used EUR 518 of gazole in a Fiat Gran Punto.
Wondering what the break-even calculation is for renting a diesel? I think the discount to essence is some 10-15% these days vs. some 30% 16 years ago?
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Here's a map of the different gas prices, if that would be of any help to you:
http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/
http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/
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we are renting from autoeurope/hertz next week in sicily. they have a gps deal. $40 for a 2013 gps. send it back when finished. $20 for a 2011 gps loaded with us and europe maps. you keep the gps.
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For such an itinerary, I would rule out a mini: OK for town and proximity driving but I think you will appreciate having at least an eco for longer distance.
You also need to factor in that diesel models tend to have a higher mpg than their petrol counterparts. If the difference is only $30 between a petrol eco and a diesel eco, i would have thought that you would easily make up the difference on that kind of an itinerary (assuming that $30 is the difference for the whole of the rental).
You also need to factor in that diesel models tend to have a higher mpg than their petrol counterparts. If the difference is only $30 between a petrol eco and a diesel eco, i would have thought that you would easily make up the difference on that kind of an itinerary (assuming that $30 is the difference for the whole of the rental).
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What does GPS have to do with the OP's question about whether to rent a diesel or petrol car?
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You also need to factor in that diesel models tend to have a higher mpg than their petrol counterparts. If the difference is only $30 between a petrol eco and a diesel eco, i would have thought that you would easily make up the difference on that kind of an itinerary (assuming that $30 is the difference for the whole of the rental).[/QUOTE]
I know diesel has an approximate 11% energy density advantage over petrol/gasoline so one should factor in the 15% price advantage and add 10-11% fuel density advantage over that, so in my original example, that €516 fuel bill would have been 27% more if I had gone for essence? Looks like diesel is the way to go. Now to make sure I book at a non-airport/non-rail station pickup location (fees for those are exorbitant).
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Here's a map of the different gas prices, if that would be of any help to you:
http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/
http://www.prix-carburants.gouv.fr/
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This is a no brainer. Gasoil, YES! It's cheaper to buy, and the kpg is the same or higher. No issue.
I've found that many rental cos. will not guarantee a gasoil car. The ones I've rented have always been serendipitous pot luck.
I've found that many rental cos. will not guarantee a gasoil car. The ones I've rented have always been serendipitous pot luck.
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That's the issue. Europcar doesn't guraantee one even if you book, so it's money down the drain if you get a petrol car. I'd take a gazole if I could get one but do I want to pay extra for one and not get it?
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I've found that usually the lower class rentals have more gasoil cars-
I've also never paid a higher rate for a gasoil car. They just give it to me as an available car.
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If you do decide "to gazole," take along some food service gloves. The dispensers at the gas stations are often out and you *do* want to use them. It's worse than gasoline, much worse, if you get it on your hands.