I say boo to everything.

Been following the forum a bit less lately, as I have started to gravitate away from AY where it makes sense. Could someone help me catch up; what's the underlying reason on why the removal of soft landing is talked about here? Was there an announcement or some T&C update earlier?

I'm getting concerned, as my tracking period rolls over on June 1st, that AY manages to [mod retraction] me over twice during the one period of Lumohood I've enjoyed. First by removing the second set of vouchers and now this.

Can only laugh at this circus going on at Tietotie.

No, someone noticed that they mention that if you don't qualify, your tier will be determined by the tier points/segments you have at that point. This text, however, has been the same for 10 years or so. So again, I don't think it's worth panicking over before we have any experience of the soft landing perk being removed.

As noticed with the changes now introduced, they don't affect the core of the program or tier progress or similar things. However, nothing's off the table and we cannot know for certain.

Thanks, have to wait and see. I did save the AY company reps post on this forum about a year ago where it was explicitly stated that this exists, so I'll continue to go by that.

Someone without status who has bought a classic J ticket (I'd assume all travel classes are affected) might be rather surprised to find out that they can't select seats for free even during check-in.

https://www.finnair.com/fi-en/bluewi...wances-2973610

Wow. It's one thing to do it on Light (Superlight) tickets but even on the Classic fare? This is getting beyond ridiculous.

And since they use the archaic online check-in system from Amadeus, I assume that even if you do pay for a seat, you won't be able to change it at check-in without paying (as is the case with TP that runs on the same system). Unlike with LH Group where paying for a seat in advance (on Light fare) at least means that you get unlimited seat switches afterwards.

I'm not sure about this either. With a quick glance I didn't notice any mention of this. Hopefully that means there will be no change.

The surcharge system is designed to penalize ex-Finland based travellers . We already seen the removal of seats from non-finns by employing anti married segments on award. And now the few awards open for non-finns getting double surcharge. Lovely.
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VIsa card is also only available for Finns, so even improvements are targeted to the domestic audience.

Might also suprise them to only get one bag at 23kg 😄🤷‍♂️

With the baggage changes to J it really feels like penny pinching. I assume the additional allowance with an upgrade is then now gone. And awards likely include then also only one piece allowance.

Also that special baggage like skis are not part anymore of the regular allowance is not good.

Overall it could be worse but it is difficult to see why to move to AY.

Piece of S*** airline.

If buy award trips now and have to postpone them later. Do I have to pay extra later?

I would assume so, but who knows with ay...

The baggage changes are dependent on ticket issue date, so IF this goes by same logic, a reissue of an award would trigger new copay.