Discussion about future of FFPs
#91
Company Representative, Finnair
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Wait a Minute: An Airline That Actually Listens to Its Frequent Fliers?
Imagine an airline whose representative proactively reaches out to its frequent fliers for input on improvements - and then actually implements them within days. Among the positive changes which have already been announced include elite level status extended by another six months, including voucher and gold card expiration dates. Find out which airline says that they are listening to its frequent fliers - and why FlyerTalk members are generally happy about the new developments.View Thread
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It's a bonus idea from the team
yes, very much working on a digi card that would be functional and not just a picture of the current plastic card. Would you mind sharing some of those situations where physical card is still needed? TIA!
#92
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WOW, thank you! This seriously is the best.
Office is kinda empty so i sent an email instead
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AM trips were earning only award points, so tier accrual is new.
It's a bonus idea from the team
I wish we could offer that, but there are quite strict legal regulations on that kind of thing.
yes, very much working on a digi card that would be functional and not just a picture of the current plastic card. Would you mind sharing some of those situations where physical card is still needed? TIA!
Office is kinda empty so i sent an email instead
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AM trips were earning only award points, so tier accrual is new.
It's a bonus idea from the team
I wish we could offer that, but there are quite strict legal regulations on that kind of thing.
yes, very much working on a digi card that would be functional and not just a picture of the current plastic card. Would you mind sharing some of those situations where physical card is still needed? TIA!
some outsourced/3rd party lounges still ask for them
sometimes your phone does not work
just a couple of reasons
#93
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also assorted lounges, especially if flying other OW airline
So typically no need, but there are still cases.
#94
Join Date: May 2013
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I hate digital cards. Every premium airline with a FFP still sends out cards -- some like Qatar and JAL even send out metal ones. Qantas and VA you can use their cards as a debit card as well after loading funds.
So when an airline tells me they're stopping to send cards because of environmental reasons, I call BS -- it's just another cost-cutting measure.
So when an airline tells me they're stopping to send cards because of environmental reasons, I call BS -- it's just another cost-cutting measure.
#95
Join Date: May 2015
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The scenarios I can think of are:
1. Lounge access as someone mentioned before, some lounges, both oneworld and non-Oneworld ask for it. Rarely though for the latter.
2. AA Flagship First Check in, for those that don't know what this is, it's a check in facility with expedited TSA for AA INTL or transcon F plus OWE available at JFK, MIA, ORD and LAX. Showing the physical card at the door is the best method for entry.
3. AA baggage allowance if status has expired, if one can prove that status was valid when you booked the ticket, the higher allowance applies.
4. Statusmatch promos from other carriers are best taken advantage of when you send a picture of the physical card.
5. If one is checking in at the counter and for some reason the AY+ number is missing, I find it easier to pull out the plastic card from my passport wallet and hand it over vs. searching for it on my phone.
#96
Join Date: May 2015
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Usually, I don't need a card at all, but when I do it's usually in the plastic format. Until the entire world can readily accept digital cards, I also call BS on "environmental" reasons.
#97
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Going around Russian airspace
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Hong Kong e-passport office wanted to see physical card (2 years ago). My collegue with digital card was not accepted.
Personally I've combined mastercard, which is enough.
#98
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
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In addition to cutting the TSA line, you'll be served by great agents. I once had a real benefit of it when AY cancelled my direct ORD to HEL flight and the agent doing the reroute via JFK hadn't reissued the ticket. It was solved quickly at the Flagship First Check-in with a friendly explanation of what had gone wrong.
#99
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Therefore, for those that would like a regular card, should be able to order it online in a simple prompt.
I've never had issues with just saying I'm OWE.
In addition to cutting the TSA line, you'll be served by great agents. I once had a real benefit of it when AY cancelled my direct ORD to HEL flight and the agent doing the reroute via JFK hadn't reissued the ticket. It was solved quickly at the Flagship First Check-in with a friendly explanation of what had gone wrong.
In addition to cutting the TSA line, you'll be served by great agents. I once had a real benefit of it when AY cancelled my direct ORD to HEL flight and the agent doing the reroute via JFK hadn't reissued the ticket. It was solved quickly at the Flagship First Check-in with a friendly explanation of what had gone wrong.
Those agents are lovely indeed, the agents inside Admirals Clubs and Flagship Lounges are great too, saved my perse on many occasions. They have the title "Premium Customer Service Agent" on their name tag so that's one way to make sure you have a more experienced one.
#100
Join Date: Jan 2011
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TLL "Nordea" lounge - they asked for the plastic every time, even when on AY and boarding card showing status & lounge invitation. I flew there long ago, maybe it changed
also assorted lounges, especially if flying other OW airline
So typically no need, but there are still cases.
also assorted lounges, especially if flying other OW airline
So typically no need, but there are still cases.
#101
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
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Can FinnairPlus comment on the price increase on awards with OW partners? It has not been announced on the website, but awards in the booking engine now quotes a new points-price.
E.g. Domestic QF J award, is supposed to be 60k but is now 62k in booking engine.
Is this a mistake or perhaps a part of the changes when YQ is removed from AY awards?
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I do notice there now is a "Classic" and a "Web" moniker, so perhaps this is a preparation for charging extra for awards booked over the phone?
E.g. Domestic QF J award, is supposed to be 60k but is now 62k in booking engine.
Is this a mistake or perhaps a part of the changes when YQ is removed from AY awards?
-- Added
I do notice there now is a "Classic" and a "Web" moniker, so perhaps this is a preparation for charging extra for awards booked over the phone?
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#102
Company Representative, Finnair
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Can FinnairPlus comment on the price increase on awards with OW partners? It has not been announced on the website, but awards in the booking engine now quotes a new points-price.
E.g. Domestic QF J award, is supposed to be 60k but is now 62k in booking engine.
Is this a mistake or perhaps a part of the changes when YQ is removed from AY awards?
-- Added
I do notice there now is a "Classic" and a "Web" moniker, so perhaps this is a preparation for charging extra for awards booked over the phone?
E.g. Domestic QF J award, is supposed to be 60k but is now 62k in booking engine.
Is this a mistake or perhaps a part of the changes when YQ is removed from AY awards?
-- Added
I do notice there now is a "Classic" and a "Web" moniker, so perhaps this is a preparation for charging extra for awards booked over the phone?
#103
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
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Did others get the second 6-month extension? My account is untouched.
When logged in on the new web, it says "we've extended you period and your upgrade vouchers" but neither has happened for me.
When logged in on the new web, it says "we've extended you period and your upgrade vouchers" but neither has happened for me.
#104
Join Date: Dec 2014
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I read somewhere that it will be completed by September. Maybe we are towards end of the queue.
#105
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We will complete all extensions by end September, so very likely you don't see anything yet.