AY COVID-19 - new cancellations in Europe
#31
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Can also confirm no re-routes are allowed, not even for places like Italy with entire country in quarantine. But they confirm the wanted date-changes very quickly and are also quick to tell the caller that upgrades can be confirmed immediately.
#32
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I wonder. I have three waitlisted weekend award bookings to DXB in March-April. My hope is that one of them clears, and then I’ll cancel the two remaining ones.
Now, I have one outbound cleared and one inbound, but not on the same booking. I wonder if Janica could use the Corona change policy and combine these into one 😉 It would be tempting but somehow I don’t feel comfortable requesting that.
Now, I have one outbound cleared and one inbound, but not on the same booking. I wonder if Janica could use the Corona change policy and combine these into one 😉 It would be tempting but somehow I don’t feel comfortable requesting that.
#33
Join Date: Sep 2018
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I believe so. This new waiver is general. It affects all bookings, new and old, on routes with or without any disruption. It is designed to make people feel safe to stay with AY. If they cancel a current booking, how likely is it they will come back to AY?
Also, this is the time for people to book summertrips. If people hesitate, the cancellations based on commercial reasons will continue for a long time. So new policy is also ment to get people to book now instead of wait and see.
Compare with eg SK, QR and many others that have introduced this fee-waiver for all bookings.
Also, this is the time for people to book summertrips. If people hesitate, the cancellations based on commercial reasons will continue for a long time. So new policy is also ment to get people to book now instead of wait and see.
Compare with eg SK, QR and many others that have introduced this fee-waiver for all bookings.
- You made your booking latest on 30 April 2020.
- Your original travel date is latest on 30 November 2020.
- You have a Finnair operated and marketed flight on Finnair ticket.
- There are available seats on your chosen new flight.
- You make the change by 30 November 2020.
Does this mean the flight shouldn't be fully booked or do I need to find seats in the same booking class?
For example: I can find cheaper tickets for flights within the next 2-3 weeks but the same itinerary during May (because of Icehockey World Championship) is more expensive or during Summer holidays. Could I book tickets for the next week and move these without any extra costs into a later, more costly period or do I have to pay then the difference for the booking class? The statement on the AY website just says seats and not booking class. Does anyone know more?
#34
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It means "seat available for sale in that cabin". New ticket will be written in cheapest available booking class. However, if using this generic waiver, you will pay fare difference to the best of my understanding.
#35
Join Date: Dec 2019
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I wonder. I have three waitlisted weekend award bookings to DXB in March-April. My hope is that one of them clears, and then I’ll cancel the two remaining ones.
Now, I have one outbound cleared and one inbound, but not on the same booking. I wonder if Janica could use the Corona change policy and combine these into one 😉 It would be tempting but somehow I don’t feel comfortable requesting that.
Now, I have one outbound cleared and one inbound, but not on the same booking. I wonder if Janica could use the Corona change policy and combine these into one 😉 It would be tempting but somehow I don’t feel comfortable requesting that.
#36
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Nordrhein-Wesfahlen is now an area where you shouldn't go to unnecessarily, according to Finnish Foreign Ministry. That means DUS. I am flying there on Friday for simply private (read: drinking) reasons. Would Finnair change my destination to HAM or HAJ instead?
#37
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Did I understood it incorrectly from the beginning? Their bulletin is updated yesterday so I don't know if the wording have been enhanced or it was my misunderstanding..
#39
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(And book a new ticket somewhere else with points for next weekend.)
#40
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#41
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Just got some new information from CS today about waivers:
1. Apparently LH routes with a smaller AY marketed leg operated by another carrier (AY codeshare) are now permitted to be changed. I had no chance to test this, though, as I had already done my cancel/rebook maneuver.
2. Perhaps this was obvious, but the postponing waiver also applies to flights departing after 30.4, as long as they are booked before this date. I was also assured that this rebook until 30.11.2020 waiver would be honored for these flights indefinitely, i.e. if you book a flight in September, and the epidemic has died in July, you retain the flexibility until 30.11. Sounds very decent to me.
3. Booking class doesn’t matter as long as there is availability in the same cabin (well, probably voluntary downgrade would be allowed, but this wasn’t something I thought of asking).
1. Apparently LH routes with a smaller AY marketed leg operated by another carrier (AY codeshare) are now permitted to be changed. I had no chance to test this, though, as I had already done my cancel/rebook maneuver.
2. Perhaps this was obvious, but the postponing waiver also applies to flights departing after 30.4, as long as they are booked before this date. I was also assured that this rebook until 30.11.2020 waiver would be honored for these flights indefinitely, i.e. if you book a flight in September, and the epidemic has died in July, you retain the flexibility until 30.11. Sounds very decent to me.
3. Booking class doesn’t matter as long as there is availability in the same cabin (well, probably voluntary downgrade would be allowed, but this wasn’t something I thought of asking).
#42
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Just got some new information from CS today about waivers:
1. Apparently LH routes with a smaller AY marketed leg operated by another carrier (AY codeshare) are now permitted to be changed. I had no chance to test this, though, as I had already done my cancel/rebook maneuver.
1. Apparently LH routes with a smaller AY marketed leg operated by another carrier (AY codeshare) are now permitted to be changed. I had no chance to test this, though, as I had already done my cancel/rebook maneuver.
#43
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Fare difference will not be paid, I have just checked with AY. Also, the number of changes that can be made is not limited so you can push your flight onwards one week at a time if necessary.
#45
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Good to know, the wording on the page was only mentioning fee waiver. I did a rebooking today to flights with only higher fare buckets avilable, but I can't tell what bucket the ticket moved into. Because they do not reissue, they only rewrite the ticket.
If you are asking about the general policy change about flexibility it is pretty clear by the published text, posted earlier and on AY webpage.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32159727-post11.html
If you are asking about the general policy change about flexibility it is pretty clear by the published text, posted earlier and on AY webpage.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32159727-post11.html