Widebodies on non-longhaul flights

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The following AY short and middle haul flights are currently operated by widebodies:
AY1331/1332 HEL-LHR-HEL, A359, D
AY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL, A333, D

AY1541/1542 HEL-BRU-HEL A359/A333 3 6

AY1961/1962 HEL-DXB-HEL, A359, 5(starting from 01NOV19) 7(starting from 17NOV19) until 17APR20
AY1961/1962 HEL-DXB-HEL, A359, 57, starting 30OCT20

As a rule, service will be the usual AY shorthaul concept both in Y and J, with the exception of IFE (available free of charge to all, with cheap in-ear headphones provided in J and Y) and internet (longhaul rules apply, ie Plats get free wifi for the duration of the flight, Golds and J get one hour). Y+ seats are sold as extra legroom seats with no special service, but cannot be chosen free of charge unless you're Plat or Lumo.

DXB is an exception, see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...dubai-dxb.html for details.

Historical service:
AY1671/1672 HEL-AGP-HEL, A330, 57, 05DEC18-06JAN19 & 17FEB19-29MAR19
AY1961/1962 HEL-DXB-HEL, A350, 57, until 29MAR19
AY1541/1542 HEL-BRU-HEL A330, 3 6(until 04MAY19)
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Old Oct 2, 19, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by intuition View Post
[OT] If there is a will, there is a way.
Watch a MH A380 (MSN100) flying shuttle to PMI, where a jumbo can't even go near the terminal and so they need to bus and tarmac board 500 pax each way.
https://www.flightradar24.com/MAS8491/

I wonder what the Cook crowd thinks when they find themselves in the F cabin ... (according to some online articles they whine because they are shipped home for free but end up MAN instead ot LGW)
There was a brief article about this on the Points Guy website yesterday: https://thepointsguy.com/news/on-tho...iation-flight/
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Old Oct 2, 19, 1:41 pm
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Kevin Hardy from Kings Lynn, is not happy: “I just think it’s diabolical.
“We’re actually going to Manchester airport and then from there being transferred to Stansted. From Stansted we’ve got another hour-and-a-half’s journey back to home.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9128836.html
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Old Oct 12, 19, 4:36 am
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Starting from 30MAR20 AY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL is 359
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Old Nov 22, 19, 2:04 am
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AY1543/44 to/from BRU cancelled today, so AY1545/46 will be an A333 (LTO).

Cancellation of the earlier (Norra) flight is business as usual but haven’t seen a widebody on the evening service for years.
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Old Nov 22, 19, 5:39 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG View Post
Starting from 30MAR20 AY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL is 359
Unfortunately from October 20 they have cancelled AY1341/1342 (1720 HEL-LHR and 1925 LHR-HEL). I would rather have a wider choice of flights than the number reduced due to 2x wide body flights daily to LHR.
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Old Nov 22, 19, 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by riku2 View Post
I would rather have a wider choice of flights than the number reduced due to 2x wide body flights daily to LHR.
I do agree, 1342 had a good schedule (almost all destinations to connect from, or if originating from LHR to have a ”full” day in London) but apparently it makes more sense to sell the slot with big money to someone else.
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Old Nov 22, 19, 7:32 am
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I do agree, 1342 had a good schedule (almost all destinations to connect from, or if originating from LHR to have a ”full” day in London) but apparently it makes more sense to sell the slot with big money to someone else.
My understanding from the other thread was that AY is not selling the slot, but returning it to AA, whom they have leased it from until now. It was stated that AA asked back that slot for a new route.
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Old Nov 22, 19, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_Hun View Post
My understanding from the other thread was that AY is not selling the slot, but returning it to AA, whom they have leased it from until now. It was stated that AA asked back that slot for a new route.
It's a very strange slot for a plane coming in from the US, that is, if AA is limited to the same arrival and departure times at LHR.
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Old Dec 4, 19, 5:08 pm
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It appears the morning AY1331/2 rotation to LHR is going be operated by an A330 on Fridays from Jan 3rd to March 27th. It returns to daily A350 at that point, accompanied by the AY1337/8 change shortly after, as reported above.

Route changes followed by new deliveries?
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Old Dec 4, 19, 11:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Flythe96flag View Post
It appears the morning AY1331/2 rotation to LHR is going be operated by an A330 on Fridays from Jan 3rd to March 27th.
Actually it starts on Friday 20DEC19
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Old Dec 4, 19, 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG View Post
Actually it starts on Friday 20DEC19
Some dates still show A359 though.
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Old Dec 4, 19, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by florens View Post
Some dates still show A359 though.
Yes but all Fridays from 20DEC are A333.
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Old Dec 5, 19, 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG View Post
Yes but all Fridays from 20DEC are A333.
Doh! I didn't see Fridays.
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG View Post
Actually it starts on Friday 20DEC19
Ah good catch, it seems Sunday too for a few days in Dec.
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Old Dec 23, 19, 12:54 am
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Today nice x-mas present for AY LHR pax. AY1337/1338 is switched from A333 to A321 due to A333 technical issues in BKK last night.
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