Dec 24, 2018, 3:54 pm
Last edit by: mpkz
The following AY short and middle haul flights are currently operated by widebodies:
AY1331/1332 HEL-LHR-HEL, A359, DAY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL, A333, D
AY1411/1412 HEL-FRA-HEL, A359, 6 (until 29OCT22)
AY1963/1964 HEL-DXB-HEL, A330, 135 (during winter 22-23)
As a rule, service will be the usual AY shorthaul concept both in Y and J, with the exception of IFE (available free of charge to all, with cheap in-ear headphones provided in J and Y) and internet (longhaul rules apply, ie Plats get free wifi for the duration of the flight, Golds and J get one hour). Y+ seats are sold as extra legroom seats with no special service, but cannot be chosen free of charge unless you're Plat or Lumo.
DXB is an exception, see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...dubai-dxb.html for details.
Widebodies on non-longhaul flights
Sep 23, 2019, 1:50 pm
#79
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Sep 24, 2019, 6:58 am
#81
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Sep 27, 2019, 5:08 am
#83
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i assume that would be a compensation case - where you bought on A333 and they served A321
and is that somehow - that certain planes fly only certain routes - a la sertain HEL-HKG and HEL-BKK flights are always served with the same planes?
Sep 27, 2019, 8:16 am
#84
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No, all aircrats are rotated in network.
Sep 27, 2019, 8:50 am
#85
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Sep 27, 2019, 10:40 am
#86
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Couldn't they send the additional crew as passengers on the outbound flight? then they would make up the numbers to operate the return flight.
Sep 28, 2019, 4:03 am
#87
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And let's not forget that some of the smaller airports may not even be able to handle widebody aircrafts: larger planes need longer runways and the size might be also issue at gates or remote stands.
Sep 28, 2019, 4:15 am
#88
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Whether they could send deadheading FAs to the Canaries and then immediately send them back, working the flight, I don't really know. I guess they could, in theory at least. HEL-LPA-HEL is not that much longer timewise, with the layover included, than the longest AY longhaul flights.
Sep 28, 2019, 4:46 am
#89
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Last winter, my HEL-LPA was delayed 4 hours. The crew waited with us, and they would have timed out at 16 hours. This would mean that AY could, in fact, operate flights to the Canaries or DXB without a change of crew (and they've done this back when they operated a single weekly to LPA in the summer). But I guess they have some kind of a deal, more or less official, that for these ~6 hour destinations, the crew will only work one-way.
Not a stable solution IRL.
Oct 2, 2019, 8:03 am
#90
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Watch a MH A380 (MSN100) flying shuttle to PMI, where a jumbo can't even go near the terminal and so they need to bus and tarmac board 500 pax each way.
https://www.flightradar24.com/MAS8491/
I wonder what the Cook crowd thinks when they find themselves in the F cabin ... (according to some online articles they whine because they are shipped home for free but end up MAN instead ot LGW)