Finnair newbie questions thread (flame-free)
Apr 3, 2019, 4:18 pm
#1981
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,752
This is true. The non-Finnish crews are on SIN and HKG only. Other Asian destinations have a crew that's mostly Finnish, with some Asian crew members.
Oh, and flying from Japan recently, I had an FA who was Fenno-Japanese and, obviously, fluent in both languages.
Oh, and flying from Japan recently, I had an FA who was Fenno-Japanese and, obviously, fluent in both languages.
Apr 3, 2019, 5:07 pm
#1982
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: AY Gold
Posts: 596
Actually Finnish language is not required on any of AY routes anymore. In France this would cause riots 
https://finnair.wd3.myworkdayjobs.co...mber_R191513-5
"Fluency in English is required, fluency in Finnish is highly valued and other language skills are considered an asset"
https://finnair.wd3.myworkdayjobs.co...mber_R191513-5
"Fluency in English is required, fluency in Finnish is highly valued and other language skills are considered an asset"
Apr 3, 2019, 5:54 pm
#1983
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,752
There was a time when AY FAs were required to be fluent in Finnish, Swedish, English and a fourth language of choice.
But that was a time where people still studied languages at school. Nowadays everyone learns English, everyone studies Swedish but nodoby learns it, and hardly anyone puts time and effort in really learning anything else, apart from a course or two of Spanish in high school. Sad.
But that was a time where people still studied languages at school. Nowadays everyone learns English, everyone studies Swedish but nodoby learns it, and hardly anyone puts time and effort in really learning anything else, apart from a course or two of Spanish in high school. Sad.
Apr 5, 2019, 5:35 am
#1985
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY+ Plat basic
Posts: 430
1st flight: MIA-HEL-ARN.
2nd flight (different ticket, same plane turnaround): ARN-MIA.
If I preorder a bottle of domppa to my first flight, will I have a problem with the booze in stockholm or will I be able to get it with me to Helsinki? Hand baggage only.
2nd flight (different ticket, same plane turnaround): ARN-MIA.
If I preorder a bottle of domppa to my first flight, will I have a problem with the booze in stockholm or will I be able to get it with me to Helsinki? Hand baggage only.
Apr 5, 2019, 6:51 am
#1986
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Finland
Programs: BA gold, OWE
Posts: 373
No problem, you won't pass security at HEL or ARN and even if you do, bottle is delivered on tamper proof Finnair bag you can take trough security.
Apr 5, 2019, 3:00 pm
#1987
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,016
Apr 8, 2019, 4:23 pm
#1989
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 2,016
Are TF's earning rates on AY accurate? It looks as if expensive fare buckets earn more than cheap fare buckets, which makes no sense to me. The most useful thing is that fare buckets X and U apparently are supposed to earn points if you credit to TF.
Apr 9, 2019, 10:54 am
#1990
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
Indeed the mapping of booking codes make no sense. Like B earns more than Y... Maybe the booking code are for TF marketing codes on AY flights?
But if you have an outstanding X or U booking, you can always try
But if you have an outstanding X or U booking, you can always try
Apr 10, 2019, 2:04 am
#1991
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,106
As we know, one-way awards cost more than 50% of the respective return award points. E.g. intercon Y is 55k oneway, but only 90k return.
We also know that you cannot book open jaw award on the website, so probably many of us books oneway (I do - or I did until now!)
Checking the AY+ T&C, however, there's an interesting section (4.10) explicitly allowing open-jaw rewards and implicitly considers it a return ticket. I talked to a very knowing agent today, she confirmed, that they can do it and specifically confirmed that it's the price of a return award. So had I called in, our HEL-SIN//BKK-HEL trip would've costed only 90k points, instead of 2x55k - bummer. She said that to change it, she'd have to cancel the original bookings and issue new ones in one booking, but it's all subject current availability, which is, alas none. Instead of waitlisting I just swallowed the extra 20k/pax this time, but for the future, bear this in mind!
We also know that you cannot book open jaw award on the website, so probably many of us books oneway (I do - or I did until now!)
Checking the AY+ T&C, however, there's an interesting section (4.10) explicitly allowing open-jaw rewards and implicitly considers it a return ticket. I talked to a very knowing agent today, she confirmed, that they can do it and specifically confirmed that it's the price of a return award. So had I called in, our HEL-SIN//BKK-HEL trip would've costed only 90k points, instead of 2x55k - bummer. She said that to change it, she'd have to cancel the original bookings and issue new ones in one booking, but it's all subject current availability, which is, alas none. Instead of waitlisting I just swallowed the extra 20k/pax this time, but for the future, bear this in mind!
Apr 12, 2019, 8:35 pm
#1992
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: SIN
Programs: AY Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 224
The give-away gold card perk for AY plat. Can you choose to gift it anytime while your status is still valid? And presume it's valid for 1 year on a separate timeline i.e. does not follow tracking period of the gifting plat holder?
Apr 12, 2019, 9:40 pm
#1993
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), TK Elite (*G), BT VIP, HH D, BW DS
Posts: 484
Yes, the give-away card always resets the tracking period of the recipient and the status is valid for 1 year. You can gift it anytime during your own tracking period (just don't give away on the 1st day of any month)
Apr 12, 2019, 11:14 pm
#1994
Join Date: Apr 2019
Programs: Finnair, Lufthansa
Posts: 1
Hi guys I just joined this forum and I am looking forward to conversations with you!
As I have just bumped up into gold status I have a question regarding Status and upgrades:
My tracking period ends 31-Jul so I should be Gold Status now and as to the rules automatically gold status from 01-Aug-2019 - 31-Jul-2020; now I see in my status the 4 inner EU flights upgrade vouchers are only valid until 31-Jul-2019 does that mean:
Nic
As I have just bumped up into gold status I have a question regarding Status and upgrades:
My tracking period ends 31-Jul so I should be Gold Status now and as to the rules automatically gold status from 01-Aug-2019 - 31-Jul-2020; now I see in my status the 4 inner EU flights upgrade vouchers are only valid until 31-Jul-2019 does that mean:
- I get 4 vouchers now to use until the end of this tracking period and have automatically again 4 vouchers next tracking period?
- Every voucher I use this period now will be deducted from the next one?
- I have only 4 vouchers this period and none the next?
Nic
Apr 12, 2019, 11:20 pm
#1995
Join Date: May 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), SK EBG (*A Gold), KQ Plat (STE+), Accor Plat
Posts: 3,157
Hi guys I just joined this forum and I am looking forward to conversations with you!
As I have just bumped up into gold status I have a question regarding Status and upgrades:
My tracking period ends 31-Jul so I should be Gold Status now and as to the rules automatically gold status from 01-Aug-2019 - 31-Jul-2020; now I see in my status the 4 inner EU flights upgrade vouchers are only valid until 31-Jul-2019 does that mean:
Nic
As I have just bumped up into gold status I have a question regarding Status and upgrades:
My tracking period ends 31-Jul so I should be Gold Status now and as to the rules automatically gold status from 01-Aug-2019 - 31-Jul-2020; now I see in my status the 4 inner EU flights upgrade vouchers are only valid until 31-Jul-2019 does that mean:
- I get 4 vouchers now to use until the end of this tracking period and have automatically again 4 vouchers next tracking period?
- Every voucher I use this period now will be deducted from the next one?
- I have only 4 vouchers this period and none the next?
Nic