This is no way, AY - things to improve [feedback thread]
#1726
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,750
Why on earth would you prepay for internet anyway? Sometimes it doesn't work at all etc and the price is the same whether you buy it in advance or in the air, so in the rare cases that I buy it, I only do it once in the air.
#1727
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: AY+ Platinum / FlyingBlue Gold
Posts: 835
Very annoyed at the moment. I had a confirmed booking to Bangkok, with upgraded HEL-BKK and BKK-HEL.
I told the Platinum WhatsApp I wish to rebook this because of the 3x points promo, and confirmed with them they will carry over my confirmed upgrades to my new PNR. I was told they would take care of it and a new ticket would be in my inbox today. I told them I was worried someone else would snatch my upgrade, but was assured it will be fine.
They now email me back saying ''The Business-class for BKK-HEL is fully booked currently, so what has most likely happened, is that during the cancellation of the original booking and when doing the upgrades to the new booking, there has been upgrades on a waiting list to another passenger and due to this, the Business-class has been fully booked in between this.''
SERIOUSLY?!? There goes my confirmed upgrade. This is just ridiculous.
I told the Platinum WhatsApp I wish to rebook this because of the 3x points promo, and confirmed with them they will carry over my confirmed upgrades to my new PNR. I was told they would take care of it and a new ticket would be in my inbox today. I told them I was worried someone else would snatch my upgrade, but was assured it will be fine.
They now email me back saying ''The Business-class for BKK-HEL is fully booked currently, so what has most likely happened, is that during the cancellation of the original booking and when doing the upgrades to the new booking, there has been upgrades on a waiting list to another passenger and due to this, the Business-class has been fully booked in between this.''
SERIOUSLY?!? There goes my confirmed upgrade. This is just ridiculous.
#1728
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
The EuroFlash case above is just one of many service achievements by AY since the covid bottom race started.
I am just thinking how can we trust FinnairPlus being genuine and able to help, rather than just fishing for accounts of complainers to blacklist.
I am just thinking how can we trust FinnairPlus being genuine and able to help, rather than just fishing for accounts of complainers to blacklist.
#1730
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,174
In theory the "peace of mind" concept? Another guess, perhaps having the charge on one single receipt makes it slightly easier to claim reimbursement, invoice or get through auditing.
But in practice it is like you say a poor choice.
But in practice it is like you say a poor choice.
#1731
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,174
Very annoyed at the moment. I had a confirmed booking to Bangkok, with upgraded HEL-BKK and BKK-HEL.
I told the Platinum WhatsApp I wish to rebook this because of the 3x points promo, and confirmed with them they will carry over my confirmed upgrades to my new PNR. I was told they would take care of it and a new ticket would be in my inbox today. I told them I was worried someone else would snatch my upgrade, but was assured it will be fine.
They now email me back saying ''The Business-class for BKK-HEL is fully booked currently, so what has most likely happened, is that during the cancellation of the original booking and when doing the upgrades to the new booking, there has been upgrades on a waiting list to another passenger and due to this, the Business-class has been fully booked in between this.''
SERIOUSLY?!? There goes my confirmed upgrade. This is just ridiculous.
I told the Platinum WhatsApp I wish to rebook this because of the 3x points promo, and confirmed with them they will carry over my confirmed upgrades to my new PNR. I was told they would take care of it and a new ticket would be in my inbox today. I told them I was worried someone else would snatch my upgrade, but was assured it will be fine.
They now email me back saying ''The Business-class for BKK-HEL is fully booked currently, so what has most likely happened, is that during the cancellation of the original booking and when doing the upgrades to the new booking, there has been upgrades on a waiting list to another passenger and due to this, the Business-class has been fully booked in between this.''
SERIOUSLY?!? There goes my confirmed upgrade. This is just ridiculous.
#1732
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: *G, used to be with TK but left due to their corruption and political ties
Posts: 4,406
Don't know if this has been covered already or if it is just me being out of touch with the times but I had a connecting flight at Helsinki today. Upon landing I wanted to change the onward flight to a later date. I hiked through half of the airport to the Finnair transfer desk and was told that they can only do check-in stuff, they can't do anything related to ticketing nor even read fare rules! Instead I went outside to the check-in area and asked for the ticketing office, was directed to "Special assistance" where they told me the exact same thing.
How can it be that airport staff are not empowered to do ticket changes? The webpage doesn't allow me to do the change I want so that leaves me now having to queue and queue on the phone (paid number) to get someone to do it when it could have been done in 2 minutes at a normal ticket desk.
How can it be that airport staff are not empowered to do ticket changes? The webpage doesn't allow me to do the change I want so that leaves me now having to queue and queue on the phone (paid number) to get someone to do it when it could have been done in 2 minutes at a normal ticket desk.
#1734
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: SK EBD, AY Platinum
Posts: 90
Just noticed by chance that Finnair rescheduled the final leg of my Business Classic trip ARN-HEL-NRT-TPE in July without notifying me actively. Not only did they change the last leg (which was originally from NRT to TPE with JAL) to HND-TSA, which would be an impossible transfer due to Japan's entry restrictions. They also rebooked me to a flight from HND that actually departs four hours before I even arrive at NRT. I tried chatting with them on Whatsapp (I have Platinum status) but they told me my only two options are to keep the new routing, or cancel the booking for a refund and book a new trip with a travel agency. They would not help me find another routing. Really, Finnair? I guess buying a flexible Classic ticket doesn't mean much...
#1735
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
The worst thing reflected many times and increasingly lately by AY is: Speculative Scheduling. It means they put out schedules on market, sell them, and soon they cancel or reroute to impracticable routings, after finding out the intended route was not selling enough good, and push customers to cancel in one way or another.
This is VERY annoying and middlefingering
This is VERY annoying and middlefingering
#1736
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, SK Gold
Posts: 954
So it's not just me who's not getting email notifications of flight changes. Yesterday when I was selecting seats for bookings I made during the promo I just happened to notice that one of my earlier reservations had gotten a 26 h layover in DOH instead of 2 hours, because QR has reduced their frequencies to HEL (I'm on an AY ticket on QR-operated flights). CS was able to change my flight dates so in my case it was sorted out well.
And again a new AY IT hick-up: some of my flights operated by QR show a different aircraft type than the QR website. I was a bit baffled when I started picking seats on what was supposed to be a 788 and saw an 8-abreast seatmap The next flight was on a 359 according to AY, but got a 77W seatmap on the QR website. Not that it would matter much as the rule no 1 with QR is never to book flights based on aircraft type.
And again a new AY IT hick-up: some of my flights operated by QR show a different aircraft type than the QR website. I was a bit baffled when I started picking seats on what was supposed to be a 788 and saw an 8-abreast seatmap The next flight was on a 359 according to AY, but got a 77W seatmap on the QR website. Not that it would matter much as the rule no 1 with QR is never to book flights based on aircraft type.
Last edited by r2d2; May 11, 2022 at 8:50 am Reason: added text about aircraft types
#1737
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,960
Just noticed by chance that Finnair rescheduled the final leg of my Business Classic trip ARN-HEL-NRT-TPE in July without notifying me actively. Not only did they change the last leg (which was originally from NRT to TPE with JAL) to HND-TSA, which would be an impossible transfer due to Japan's entry restrictions. They also rebooked me to a flight from HND that actually departs four hours before I even arrive at NRT. I tried chatting with them on Whatsapp (I have Platinum status) but they told me my only two options are to keep the new routing, or cancel the booking for a refund and book a new trip with a travel agency. They would not help me find another routing. Really, Finnair? I guess buying a flexible Classic ticket doesn't mean much...
And in your case it doesn't matter if you have a Classic, Flex or Light ticket type. This is an involuntary rerouting.
#1738
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ADL
Programs: QFF, AAdvantage, All
Posts: 1,137
Just noticed by chance that Finnair rescheduled the final leg of my Business Classic trip ARN-HEL-NRT-TPE in July without notifying me actively. Not only did they change the last leg (which was originally from NRT to TPE with JAL) to HND-TSA, which would be an impossible transfer due to Japan's entry restrictions. They also rebooked me to a flight from HND that actually departs four hours before I even arrive at NRT. I tried chatting with them on Whatsapp (I have Platinum status) but they told me my only two options are to keep the new routing, or cancel the booking for a refund and book a new trip with a travel agency. They would not help me find another routing. Really, Finnair? I guess buying a flexible Classic ticket doesn't mean much...
Is the last leg now with China Airlines ?
#1739
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,750
And what will they do if this is what you choose and you then land in Japan four hours after the last flight has departed? Sounds like a really bad joke.
AY has become absolutely horrible with these schedule change handlings. They do not respect any rules and they could not care less about their pax. Good luck being anyone's first choice between Europe and Asia when things start to normalize.
AY has become absolutely horrible with these schedule change handlings. They do not respect any rules and they could not care less about their pax. Good luck being anyone's first choice between Europe and Asia when things start to normalize.
#1740
Join Date: Oct 2011
Programs: SK EBD, AY Platinum
Posts: 90
Chatting via Whatsapp I asked if I could suggest a new routing myself, which they said no to. I had BKK and ICN in mind. I then tried calling, and after an hour in the queue + being put on hold for 20 minutes after explaining the problem, was first offered to be rescheduled to the HND-TSA flight the next day, which of course solved nothing. At that point I couldn't spend any more time on the phone, but she did say that I could call back if I found a better routing. Will need to think about this, as it feels like schedules will keep changing, making it very difficult to plan/book/rebook the quarantine hotel in Taiwan.