Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
Mar 12, 2024, 12:32 am
#1621
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 4
Forgive me if this isn't correct thread for upgrade offers, I couldn't find any better.
I just got a PE upgrade for SIN-HEL for 140 EUR. I think is quite affordable given the length of the route. I flew with KLM in October from SJO to AMS and upgrade from economy to their PE was back then over 300 EUR.
I just got a PE upgrade for SIN-HEL for 140 EUR. I think is quite affordable given the length of the route. I flew with KLM in October from SJO to AMS and upgrade from economy to their PE was back then over 300 EUR.
Mar 12, 2024, 4:24 am
#1622
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,962
Forgive me if this isn't correct thread for upgrade offers, I couldn't find any better.
I just got a PE upgrade for SIN-HEL for 140 EUR. I think is quite affordable given the length of the route. I flew with KLM in October from SJO to AMS and upgrade from economy to their PE was back then over 300 EUR.
I just got a PE upgrade for SIN-HEL for 140 EUR. I think is quite affordable given the length of the route. I flew with KLM in October from SJO to AMS and upgrade from economy to their PE was back then over 300 EUR.
Mar 16, 2024, 10:10 am
#1623
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Espoo
Programs: AY
Posts: 157
- City-pair and/or flight number: HEL - HKT
- Price offered: op-ups PE to J
- Flight date: middle March, 2024
- FF tier on reservation: AY basic newly joined, 2 pax on the pnr
- Original ticket type: PE classic
- How the offer was made: At the boarding gate
Friends came to Phuket and I advised them to get AY status beforehand, and at least buy PE to make the long journey more tolerable. It turned out to be a pleasant surprise at the gate. They never fly in J on long haul before. Now they think J totally worth extra money and they love the AY J seat! And they would try to get (cash) upgrade to J in the future 😂
Last edited by cantongirl; Mar 16, 2024 at 10:27 am
Mar 18, 2024, 10:48 am
#1624
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 61
Does anyone know the points situation on such upgrades?
I upgraded from PE to J at the airport for £300 (BKK - HEL). The sign with the offer only said it would not include luggage or lounge access and nothing about a restriction for points. I just received the points on my account and I received PE tier points and not J, it’s also showing as a PE flight.
I upgraded from PE to J at the airport for £300 (BKK - HEL). The sign with the offer only said it would not include luggage or lounge access and nothing about a restriction for points. I just received the points on my account and I received PE tier points and not J, it’s also showing as a PE flight.
Mar 18, 2024, 11:02 am
#1626
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,962
Does anyone know the points situation on such upgrades?
I upgraded from PE to J at the airport for £300 (BKK - HEL). The sign with the offer only said it would not include luggage or lounge access and nothing about a restriction for points. I just received the points on my account and I received PE tier points and not J, it’s also showing as a PE flight.
I upgraded from PE to J at the airport for £300 (BKK - HEL). The sign with the offer only said it would not include luggage or lounge access and nothing about a restriction for points. I just received the points on my account and I received PE tier points and not J, it’s also showing as a PE flight.
For old reservations this is how it has infortunately allways worked, I would imagine going forward they would issue the points for the new spend but who knows...
I still say its total BS that no lounge or luggage is included in airport upgrades 🤷♂️👎
Mar 19, 2024, 7:57 am
#1627
Join Date: May 2022
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat (OWE) | SK EB Gold (*G)
Posts: 22
- City-pair and/or flight number: NCE-HEL AY1604
- Price offered: 69€
- Flight date: April
- FF tier on reservation: AY Plat
- Original ticket type: Eco Superlight
- How the offer was made: App
Apr 22, 2024, 5:00 am
#1630
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,602
- City-pair and/or flight number: HEL-MUC
- Price offered: €69 / 9000 idios / voucher
- Flight date: May (A359)
- FF tier on reservation: AY+ Plat
- Original ticket type: Eco slimlight
- How the offer was made: AY App
well I frugal and stay with free PE seat
Apr 22, 2024, 6:03 am
#1632
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,756
I think 69 EUR is the new norm. I had the same "offer" for WRO and CPH via app.
For a non-status member, that is actually a reasonable price. You get a bag, lounge access and a free seat. The on-board meal is hardly worth more than a few euros, but free-flowing drinks are a valuable perk if one is a drinker.
For a non-status member, that is actually a reasonable price. You get a bag, lounge access and a free seat. The on-board meal is hardly worth more than a few euros, but free-flowing drinks are a valuable perk if one is a drinker.
Apr 22, 2024, 9:16 am
#1633
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: AF/KL FB Plat ; A3 Gold ; HH Gold ; IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 2,380
Also got 69-70 EUR offer on HEL GVA HEL. Even if it was free, I don't even know if I would take it: AY platinum, free emergency exit, usually the adjacent seat is free, and one gin tonic onboard is enough for me.
Apr 22, 2024, 9:22 am
#1634
Join Date: Mar 2022
Programs: AY+ Plat
Posts: 493
