Network Holes?
Apr 26, 2014, 12:47 am
#16
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Didn't AY operate to HAJ perhaps 20 years ago? STR was mentioned above. Is there potential with any further German destinations?
Russia should have some opportunities, but I assume prices in that market have come down over the past 10 years as there is now more competition.
I'm not convinced N.America to Asia has any potential - ok, certainly seats can be filled, but at ridiculously low prices.
Russia should have some opportunities, but I assume prices in that market have come down over the past 10 years as there is now more competition.
I'm not convinced N.America to Asia has any potential - ok, certainly seats can be filled, but at ridiculously low prices.
Apr 26, 2014, 1:31 am
#17
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This spring Kazan, Nizhny Novgorod, Samara and Sochi opened for Finnish operators, AY see opportunities there for sure. But probably not just yet...
Yes Finnair announced KUL via BKK in 2007 but the capacity was suddenly moved elsewhere in Asia.
Yes Finnair announced KUL via BKK in 2007 but the capacity was suddenly moved elsewhere in Asia.
Apr 26, 2014, 4:10 pm
#20
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I think what the OW airlines ended up doing is giving CX CAN and TPE given that they all codeshare. Would be nice to have a TPE route though.
Apr 27, 2014, 2:17 pm
#21
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Apr 27, 2014, 3:03 pm
#22
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AY started to codeshare with TAP after they began to flights to Helsinki. Not a big loss as they have better onboard product (hot meals in economy, free newspapers and alcohol). Lisbon is quite difficult market for AY as the aircraft has to overnight at LIS to be able feed Asian flights, TAP has lower staff costs and revenue advantage (ability to feed flights to Latin America).
Apr 27, 2014, 9:19 pm
#23
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At least in 1980 they did.
Route map from 1980:
http://www.digipaper.fi/bluewings/41312/ (page 43)
HAJ was AY825/826
Route map from 1980:
http://www.digipaper.fi/bluewings/41312/ (page 43)
HAJ was AY825/826
Apr 28, 2014, 12:51 am
#25
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AY started to codeshare with TAP after they began to flights to Helsinki. Not a big loss as they have better onboard product (hot meals in economy, free newspapers and alcohol). Lisbon is quite difficult market for AY as the aircraft has to overnight at LIS to be able feed Asian flights, TAP has lower staff costs and revenue advantage (ability to feed flights to Latin America).
Oh my, I did fly once TAP and now I recall it was just great. How could I forget that, early Alzheimers???
Sure, TAP is in StarAlliance
Apr 28, 2014, 4:34 am
#26
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Apr 28, 2014, 8:46 am
#27
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At least in 1980 they did.
Route map from 1980:
http://www.digipaper.fi/bluewings/41312/ (page 43)
HAJ was AY825/826
Route map from 1980:
http://www.digipaper.fi/bluewings/41312/ (page 43)
HAJ was AY825/826
LEJ was offered only once in September so they treated GDR and FRG equally.
Apr 28, 2014, 1:37 pm
#28
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Apr 28, 2014, 1:39 pm
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Apr 28, 2014, 2:28 pm
#30
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I don't know if AY still has a base at BKK anymore, but seeing how there is one in SIN, would there be any chance for fifth-freedom routes from there? I can see SYD/MEL or KUL/CGK possible, but would the competition be too much?