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HikerT Nov 16, 2013 10:43 am

I appear to be censored on Points, Miles, and Martinis. Posted 2 comments which never appeared. Changed handle, comment posted instantly.

Renes Points Nov 16, 2013 5:32 pm

TBB now censors. Direct quote from his site:

"I deleted a comment on my site revealing my identity. Some people got way too much time on their hands and can not take any criticism at all?"

http://travelbloggerbuzz.com/new-zea...#comment-34253

ma91pmh Nov 16, 2013 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by Delta Points (Post 21797254)
TBB now censors. Direct quote from his site:

"I deleted a comment on my site revealing my identity. Some people got way too much time on their hands and can not take any criticism at all?"

http://travelbloggerbuzz.com/new-zea...#comment-34253

Come back here when you stop treating your own site like North Korea dude. Weren't you supposed to be self-exiled from FT?

84fiero Nov 16, 2013 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by Delta Points (Post 21797254)
TBB now censors. Direct quote from his site:

"I deleted a comment on my site revealing my identity. Some people got way too much time on their hands and can not take any criticism at all?"

http://travelbloggerbuzz.com/new-zea...#comment-34253

I wouldn't in any way say that makes it accurate to say that "TBB now censors". If someone was posting personally identifying information beyond what he wants to share online, that's certainly fair to delete. Who wouldn't? And it sounds as if the commenter was doing so in anger or some sort of ill will.

A blog with a history of always moderating each comment and censoring frequently, is I believe what the thread is primarily concerned with.

ingy Nov 17, 2013 6:35 am


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 21797891)
I wouldn't in any way say that makes it accurate to say that "TBB now censors". If someone was posting personally identifying information beyond what he wants to share online, that's certainly fair to delete. Who wouldn't? And it sounds as if the commenter was doing so in anger or some sort of ill will.

A blog with a history of always moderating each comment and censoring frequently, is I believe what the thread is primarily concerned with.


Why that seems to be a bit of a double standard to me? Is it OK to tout your blog as one that will never ever, ever ever, censor, and yet censor to allegedly protect your identity? The blog owner makes the issue of never censoring one of his platforms by repeating the claim almost daily. It is part of his schtick. (I never saw the comment. It was censored, plain and simple).

When you allegedly hold yourself out to a higher standard with repeated claims that you will never do something and then do to cover your own ..., I would call that hypocritical.

84fiero Nov 17, 2013 7:25 am


Originally Posted by ingy (Post 21799188)
Why that seems to be a bit of a double standard to me? Is it OK to tout your blog as one that will never ever, ever ever, censor, and yet censor to allegedly protect your identity? The blog owner makes the issue of never censoring one of his platforms by repeating the claim almost daily. It is part of his schtick. (I never saw the comment. It was censored, plain and simple).

When you allegedly hold yourself out to a higher standard with repeated claims that you will never do something and then do to cover your own ..., I would call that hypocritical.

If someone posted your personal information, you wouldn't delete it? Really?

Your blog used to censor comments (at least when you ran it, I don't visit much anymore) that you deemed inappropriate regarding you or your family. In fact comments all required approval in the first place.

A one-off deletion for legit reasons, is not the same as blogs that routinely moderate/censor, another one of which is DeltaPoints, which makes it ironic that he made the TBB post to begin with.

ingy Nov 17, 2013 7:59 am


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 21799320)
If someone posted your personal information, you wouldn't delete it? Really?

Your blog used to censor comments (at least when you ran it, I don't visit much anymore) that you deemed inappropriate regarding you or your family. In fact comments all required approval in the first place.

A one-off deletion for legit reasons, is not the same as blogs that routinely moderate/censor, another one of which is DeltaPoints, which makes it ironic that he made the TBB post to begin with.

admittedly I never saw the comment before it was censored and can't speak to anything other than Georgie indicated it identified him. So what? Is his identity a big secret? I suspect the true answer to that question is yes, particularly in light of the censorship.

I think the censoring is just a continuation of a pattern on this blog that is hypercritical of others.

1. the first issue was disclosure. In the early blog days the hype was bloggers needed to disclose fully their link relationship to some standard George decided was acceptable. Little did it matter that all bloggers conformed with the legal requirements of disclosure. George wanted is own standard imposed until the question of his name disclosure was repeatedly brought up as a counter point. that issue disappeared from the radar screen until this past week.

2. Next was the issue of card pimping, and that still continues on the blog. George always insinuated he would do a better job with links BUT money wasn't important. Yet, we all remember the great Adsense debacle of '13 where he tried and failed to monetize his own blog, and has he has gone to conferences, and met with affiliate marketing managers to do the same himself. Yet he continues to call out others for of all things: the barrage of blue links.

3. And most recently his shtick is credibility, yet he can call others out for deleting comments and you want to give him a pass for doing the same thing? I'd gladly give him the pass if the pattern wasn't so clear, the ranting so loud and the degrading of others so severe.

If credibility is truly an issue for George, maybe he'll take a little helpful criticism for a change instead of just dishing out his rants and slams. If you are going to try to hold yourself out to a higher standard, you'd better live that higher standard yourself.

when it is all said and done, George is just another Bozo on the Bus with little room to criticize others.

"Let he without sin, cast the first stone"

Renes Points Nov 17, 2013 8:27 am


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 21799320)
A one-off deletion for legit reasons, is not the same as blogs that routinely moderate/censor, another one of which is DeltaPoints, which makes it ironic that he made the TBB post to begin with.

I have no double standards. I PROUDLY censor. I state it up front for all to see and I DO censor. Those who YELL THEY DO NOT CENSOR, then they censor, have double standards.

MODS - maybe we can change this thread to:

"Which miles and points blogs censor comments now and then when either the blog or 84fiero thinks it is ok to censor"?

84fiero Nov 17, 2013 9:39 am


Originally Posted by ingy (Post 21799443)
admittedly I never saw the comment before it was censored and can't speak to anything other than Georgie indicated it identified him. So what? Is his identity a big secret? I suspect the true answer to that question is yes, particularly in light of the censorship.

I think the censoring is just a continuation of a pattern on this blog that is hypercritical of others.

1. the first issue was disclosure. In the early blog days the hype was bloggers needed to disclose fully their link relationship to some standard George decided was acceptable. Little did it matter that all bloggers conformed with the legal requirements of disclosure. George wanted is own standard imposed until the question of his name disclosure was repeatedly brought up as a counter point. that issue disappeared from the radar screen until this past week.

2. Next was the issue of card pimping, and that still continues on the blog. George always insinuated he would do a better job with links BUT money wasn't important. Yet, we all remember the great Adsense debacle of '13 where he tried and failed to monetize his own blog, and has he has gone to conferences, and met with affiliate marketing managers to do the same himself. Yet he continues to call out others for of all things: the barrage of blue links.

3. And most recently his shtick is credibility, yet he can call others out for deleting comments and you want to give him a pass for doing the same thing? I'd gladly give him the pass if the pattern wasn't so clear, the ranting so loud and the degrading of others so severe.

If credibility is truly an issue for George, maybe he'll take a little helpful criticism for a change instead of just dishing out his rants and slams. If you are going to try to hold yourself out to a higher standard, you'd better live that higher standard yourself.

when it is all said and done, George is just another Bozo on the Bus with little room to criticize others.

"Let he without sin, cast the first stone"

I literally have no idea about all the TBB history you're bringing up, as I haven't been following it, and frankly don't care to get roped into it. I simply commented on the item posted upthread...if there is some broader feud between you two, that's probably best handled elsewhere IMHO.

I thought you didn't like "the angries" but the above post sure comes off that way to me.


Originally Posted by Delta Points (Post 21799559)
I have no double standards. I PROUDLY censor. I state it up front for all to see and I DO censor. Those who YELL THEY DO NOT CENSOR, then they censor, have double standards.

MODS - maybe we can change this thread to:

"Which miles and points blogs censor comments now and then when either the blog or 84fiero thinks it is ok to censor"?

I never said you had double standards, just wonder why you care since you censor anyway. And I don't see any reason for you to yell.

HikerT Nov 17, 2013 11:18 am

TBB has censored personal information in the past. Pretty sure one or both of the crybabies above threatened to sue too if the comments were not removed, lol. Yes you can argue removing personal information in comments is censorship. If you want to be even more disingenuous about who censors, you could go so far as to claim any blogger that has removed a spam link censors.

yerffej201 Nov 17, 2013 12:23 pm

This is a slippery slope.
So if some hater decided to post my address and personal info on TBB's blog, would george remove the comment? is that censoring?
What if someone posted a mistake fare in the comments?
I think it's only fair that now we see the comment that tbb removed, with personal information removed?

HikerT Nov 17, 2013 12:45 pm

I think it's only fair to see the spam links TBB has removed. Just don't trust the guy now.

yerffej201 Nov 17, 2013 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by HikerT (Post 21800796)
I think it's only fair to see the spam links TBB has removed.

Agreed! Gdapop where are you????

84fiero Nov 17, 2013 3:41 pm

What did TBB know and when did he know it? The American people demand answers!!

Where are Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward when you need them??

brooklynmatt Nov 17, 2013 3:55 pm

We should change the title of this thread to:

Which miles and points blogs censor comments for the reason of keeping the reader of the comments in the dark about monetization practices that do not have the readers best interest at heart.

It's a little lengthy and loses some of the Zip I agree, but otherwise what we have is more than two categories - everyone censors spam, some people censor personal information, some people censor profanity, some people censor comments that challenge the ethics of the post.

Are all these things equal?


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