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Raffles Sep 23, 2013 2:59 am

How can taking 24 hours to approve posts be OK? If you are posting daily, then a days delay on approving comments is effectively censoring them anyway, as the story will have dropped off the home page by then.

You can approve a comment in 2 seconds using the WordPress smartphone app.

ma91pmh Sep 23, 2013 4:51 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 21488636)
How can taking 24 hours to approve posts be OK? If you are posting daily, then a days delay on approving comments is effectively censoring them anyway, as the story will have dropped off the home page by then.

You can approve a comment in 2 seconds using the WordPress smartphone app.

That's just ridiculously harsh. Makes you sound like a grumpy old man. Give they guy a break it's not like everyone is on their computers 24/7 like some folks around FT

Raffles Sep 23, 2013 5:26 am


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 21488844)
That's just ridiculously harsh. Makes you sound like a grumpy old man. Give they guy a break it's not like everyone is on their computers 24/7 like some folks around FT

If you're running a blog generating $50,000 - $250,000+ a year in card affiliate revenue and advertising, I don't think its asking too much.

We are not talking about kids running hobby blogs here, we're talking about people running serious businesses who earn far more than the average wage doing so.

A blog is a 24/7 business. I was working on mine on Christmas Day (which in the UK is the equivalent to Thanksgiving in terms of how you should spend the day) plus every day whilst on vacation. I'm getting paid for it so people should get a decent level of service. Although, as I don't censor or approve comments, I only need to 'approve' stuff which Akismet accidentally marks as spam anyway.

oliver2002 Sep 23, 2013 5:28 am


Originally Posted by PointMetothePlane (Post 21487794)
If you've never before written on the blog, your comment is displayed as pending until I approve it. Going forward, you will no longer need to wait for approval. This is the case for all BoardingArea blogs.

I don't think this is the case. If I were you I'd double check with the BA admins why this is happening to your section.

ma91pmh Sep 23, 2013 5:31 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 21488947)
If you're running a blog generating $50,000 - $100,000+ a year in card affiliate revenue and advertising, I don't think its asking too much.

We are not talking about kids running hobby blogs here, we're talking about people running serious businesses who earn far more than the average wage doing so.

A blog is a 24/7 business. I was working on mine on Christmas Day (which in the UK is the equivalent to Thanksgiving in terms of how you should spend the day) plus every day whilst on vacation. I'm getting paid for it so people should get a decent level of service.

Meh, blogs die at the weekend. I'm a hobbyist so the few times I do post it tends to be on a weekend, but I would not care if my comment got stuck in a spam filter until the start of the work week.

I'm a Brit myself. If you choose to work Christmas Day, even Boxing Day, more fool you. Most reasonable people would forgive you for not being available. Maybe not the original complainant here - who as a long history of attacking bloggers - but anyone reasonable.

ma91pmh Sep 23, 2013 5:33 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 21488953)
I don't think this is the case. If I were you I'd double check with the BA admins why this is happening to your section.

I don't know if it's across BA but I have seen this on other BA blogs

oliver2002 Sep 23, 2013 5:52 am


Originally Posted by ma91pmh (Post 21488971)
I don't know if it's across BA but I have seen this on other BA blogs

If it would be intentional policy to queue every comment made by anyone on one of the blog they never posted before it certainly would impede the growth of the newly added BA blogs. Hence I think its a bug, not a feature.

gpapadop Sep 23, 2013 9:12 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 21488953)
I don't think this is the case. If I were you I'd double check with the BA admins why this is happening to your section.

I think BA is blocking me :D

milesforfamily Sep 23, 2013 9:52 am

@ma91pmh You are the voice of reason, my friend. People do have a life, or they should. The other day I found some comments on my blog, that went to spam. They were not spam, but thats what happened. I feel bad, because some people asked questions a long time ago. They probably gave up on my blog, because they thought I don't care. It wasn't intentional.

Astrophsx Sep 23, 2013 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by PointMetothePlane (Post 21487794)
@Astrophsx - I've never censored one comment in the history of my blog and continue to not censor ANY comments. If you've never before written on the blog, your comment is displayed as pending until I approve it. Going forward, you will no longer need to wait for approval. This is the case for all BoardingArea blogs. Perhaps you should wait at least 24 hours before labeling someone as censoring???

I have a full-time job and do take some personal time on weekends as well. You posted late on a Saturday night and I was traveling internationally again today. Responding to your post was not my first priority, I apologize. Additionally, the pictures are from my personal stay and i've responded to your comment on the blog. My regular readers already know the circumstances from my past posts including one on this property.

Again, I think giving a blog at least 24 hours to approve a post (these are done manually) would be appropriate going forward.

I updated my post on here as soon as I saw my comment was posted to let people know that it was not censored.

I'm just curious.. After pointing out to you that the photos from your 9/2013 trip report of the Le Meridien Nice were taken in 2011 (at least that is what the metadata states and the website folder date was for another year), why did you then go back and re-edit the photos and then place them in a new folder? I just think as a reader I would like a blogger to point out when they are using screen shots of professional photos and also using photos that were not obtained on the current stay. I feel it is a bit misleading, and that is why I posted a comment... then posted a comment on here when I noticed that comments from other readers were posted and mine was not.

Unless I've missed a post I haven't seen anything about a broken camera. Maybe it is on a post that has yet to be published?

HikerT Sep 23, 2013 1:12 pm

Kind of ironic that BoardingArea is one of the leaders in delivering content spam but seemingly inept at filtering comment spam.

ma91pmh Sep 23, 2013 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by HikerT (Post 21491441)
Kind of ironic that BoardingArea is one of the leaders in delivering content spam but seemingly inept at filtering comment spam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU

GUWonder Sep 24, 2013 3:07 pm

Are some miles and points blogs "censoring" or going to "censor" when there is a claimed/peddled/held "fear" of being pursued for statements that a party or some others may claim is "libelous"? Is that so different from FT?

Raffles Sep 25, 2013 2:55 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 21498446)
Are some miles and points blogs "censoring" or going to "censor" when there is a claimed/peddled/held "fear" of being pursued for statements that a party or some others may claim is "libelous"? Is that so different from FT?

Since tangentially that is aimed at me, I didn't actually need to censor anyone yesterday despite my warning.

However, the UK has the strictest libel laws of any major economy and UK bloggers have no choice but to work around it. Remember there is no 'freedom of speech' defence here.

Until recently, when it was banned, our courts were clogged with foreign claimants suing other foreign publishers for libel, on the grounds that at least 1 copy of the publication had been sold in or posted to the UK. They could not sue in their own courts because their own laws did not hold it defamatory. Overseas publishers stopped selling their titles here or accepting UK subscribers for fear of being sued for an innocuous remark.

GUWonder Sep 25, 2013 4:37 am


Originally Posted by Raffles (Post 21501085)
Since tangentially that is aimed at me, I didn't actually need to censor anyone yesterday despite my warning.

However, the UK has the strictest libel laws of any major economy and UK bloggers have no choice but to work around it. Remember there is no 'freedom of speech' defence here.

Until recently, when it was banned, our courts were clogged with foreign claimants suing other foreign publishers for libel, on the grounds that at least 1 copy of the publication had been sold in or posted to the UK. They could not sue in their own courts because their own laws did not hold it defamatory. Overseas publishers stopped selling their titles here or accepting UK subscribers for fear of being sued for an innocuous remark.

I'm quite familiar with the UK's reputation in that regard and venue shopping in the above-mentioned ways. Libel tourism destination of choice, some would have said.

My post wasn't aimed at your blog, but your blog certainly was somewhere in my mind when my interest in this area got re-ignited enough to spark me into posting. That said, if asking (and answering) a question about the factual history of redacted communication in a different venue is considered "libelous", then that just widens the gap between history and historiography and runs counter to objective discovery. Objective discovery, or attempts at objective discovery, would be considered defamation under UK laws? As I understood it, fair reports of allegations are not generally actionable as it is considered an allowable defense. Did that change with the Defamation Act of 2013, and are there new causes of action? I have some doubt about that.

The reason I posted as I did here was sparked by what I read on FT quite some time back -- something that long precedes this section of FT -- and then indeed what I later read on your blog.

There are other things that are posted on FT and on blogs that may be subject to legal pursuit in some jurisdiction or another on much the same basis or even a separate basis -- "hate 'speech'" kind of things was also one of the two other things that came to my mind earlier. However, that doesn't necessarily lead directly to legal problems even when not having the US 2010 SPEECH Act as shield and sword.


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