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evergrn Nov 3, 2017 5:15 pm

I didn't even know EVA had a second SEA-TPE flight. When did this flight start? I'm at SEA and I've been flying red-eye EVA out of SEA and YVR for a while now.


Originally Posted by tai4de2 (Post 28941368)
I am almost glad to see the daytime Seattle flight disappear. I would definitely not have wanted to see EVA discovering the market for such a flight and "helpfully" eliminating the nighttime flight in favor of the more "convenient" daytime flight. (Something like this actually happened with Asiana -- my first experience ex. Seattle was a nighttime flight. Eventually they changed to a daytime flight instead.)

I completely agree. It is such a convenient time for me, and EVA is the last remaining option out of SEA.

hayzel7773 Nov 3, 2017 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 29015513)
I didn't even know EVA had a second SEA-TPE flight. When did this flight start? I'm at SEA and I've been flying red-eye EVA out of SEA and YVR for a while now.



I completely agree. It is such a convenient time for me, and EVA is the last remaining option out of SEA.

Started in December of 2016, at its peak was 4x weekly.

global happy traveller Nov 15, 2017 7:57 pm

has it been cancelled already? Flightaware is showing no activity for past 3 weeks.
GHT Jr and I been on that flight and its pretty quiet. Barely connects well with other Asian flights.

aircam Nov 15, 2017 8:08 pm

BR introduced new daytime LAX/SFO/JFK-TPE as well, presumably to feed a new evening bank of flights from TPE-MNL/SGN. I wonder how the new daytime LAX/SFO/JFK flights are doing?

coolfish1103 Nov 16, 2017 1:16 am

TPE-JFK vv has frequency cut. TPE-SFO vv is a recent addition to counter CI's new flights so yet to see how it goes. TPE-LAX vv is hanging there.

hayzel7773 Nov 18, 2017 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by aircam (Post 29065735)
BR introduced new daytime LAX/SFO/JFK-TPE as well, presumably to feed a new evening bank of flights from TPE-MNL/SGN. I wonder how the new daytime LAX/SFO/JFK flights are doing?

SFO is doing quite well. Good LF and yields for Elite and RL cabin. Also have lots of belly cargo.

krispykrme Nov 19, 2017 2:19 am


Originally Posted by hayzel7773 (Post 29076594)
SFO is doing quite well. Good LF and yields for Elite and RL cabin. Also have lots of belly cargo.

I am on BR27 right now. RL is full.

first time on the newest 77W for eva

wlau Nov 27, 2017 3:33 pm

Yay!!! Glad they are getting rid of the SEA flights. Horrible arrival times and don't connect well with United. I HATE picking my coworkers at god-awful hours when they fly with EVA into/through SEA.

hayzel7773 Nov 27, 2017 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29106545)
Yay!!! Glad they are getting rid of the SEA flights. Horrible arrival times and don't connect well with United. I HATE picking my coworkers at god-awful hours when they fly with EVA into/through SEA.

United doesn't offer much connections out of SEA. The evening flight is still there...

tai4de2 Nov 28, 2017 12:54 am


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29106545)
Yay!!! Glad they are getting rid of the SEA flights. Horrible arrival times and don't connect well with United. I HATE picking my coworkers at god-awful hours when they fly with EVA into/through SEA.

I don't understand this post. Which times and flights are (or were) "god-awful"?

eponymous_coward Nov 28, 2017 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29106545)
Yay!!! Glad they are getting rid of the SEA flights. Horrible arrival times and don't connect well with United. I HATE picking my coworkers at god-awful hours when they fly with EVA into/through SEA.

Why on earth would anyone connect in SEA for UA? It's a UA spoke- all the UA flights are to other hubs, many of which have nonstop BR service like SFO, LAX, IAH, ORD. If you were connecting to AS or DL (who both hub at SEA), OK, but what does SEA give you that an actual UA hub doesn't? It makes about as much sense as connecting in PEK to take BR to TPE to a third destination instead of a BR nonstop to TPE... :confused:

wlau Nov 29, 2017 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 29110177)
Why on earth would anyone connect in SEA for UA? It's a UA spoke- all the UA flights are to other hubs, many of which have nonstop BR service like SFO, LAX, IAH, ORD. If you were connecting to AS or DL (who both hub at SEA), OK, but what does SEA give you that an actual UA hub doesn't? It makes about as much sense as connecting in PEK to take BR to TPE to a third destination instead of a BR nonstop to TPE... :confused:

MONEY!! and chance of upgrade, silly!

SEA is a hub for AS and DL, not UA. Connecting via SEA is usually cheaper because it's less convenient.

IAH and ORD flights arrived around 11PM!!! Why does it surprise you the connect options are limited at that hour?

SFO and LAX are better connection options. Your mindset is exactly why EVA's Diamond members love to connect at SEA because they have a better chance of upgrade or op-up on TPE-SEA flights...

I am Diamond with Delta but because of my stupid EVA Diamond coworkers, I remember EVA's route map and schedule by heart - I jump for joy when EVA cancel fights to non-key destination, and happy when they add flights into LAX/SFO because one less screwed up routing option available for them to consider.

eponymous_coward Nov 29, 2017 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29114749)
SEA is a hub for AS and DL, not UA.

Pretty sure I mentioned that.


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29114749)
Connecting via SEA is usually cheaper because it's less convenient.

Sure, but the flight BR cancelled wasn't the one that it was reasonable if not as convenient to connect to and from (a 6 am arrival/11:30 departure pair can take a fair number of UA connections, if it's kinda dumb because not a UA hub), but the one that is very obviously timed for TPE side connections and SEA O/D (a 1 am departure and 6 pm arrival for SEA is going to mean you're sitting around for HOURS on UA connections, but BR 25's timing is not ridiculous for a SEA departure if you want to do onward travel from TPE, same goes for BR 26, you can easily get somewhere in Asia->TPE->SEA all in one reasonable go).

So if your colleagues still want those op-ups and upgrades, prepare for flights that are even LESS convenient.

wlau Nov 30, 2017 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by eponymous_coward (Post 29115052)
Pretty sure I mentioned that.



Sure, but the flight BR cancelled wasn't the one that it was reasonable if not as convenient to connect to and from (a 6 am arrival/11:30 departure pair can take a fair number of UA connections, if it's kinda dumb because not a UA hub), but the one that is very obviously timed for TPE side connections and SEA O/D (a 1 am departure and 6 pm arrival for SEA is going to mean you're sitting around for HOURS on UA connections, but BR 25's timing is not ridiculous for a SEA departure if you want to do onward travel from TPE, same goes for BR 26, you can easily get somewhere in Asia->TPE->SEA all in one reasonable go).

So if your colleagues still want those op-ups and upgrades, prepare for flights that are even LESS convenient.

You don't fly enough.. if you are doing international trip TPAC/TATL 1-2 times a week, and on some type of plane 5-6 times a week, then you will understand... TPE-SEA arrives around 6pm +/- depend on daylight savings adjustment. SEA international arrival is a mess, so you have to spent a lot of time clear US custom. By the time you are done, you best not board connecting flight before 9pm or 10pm (daylight savings). Where can you go at that hour beyond a quick hop on the west coast?

With this TPE-SEA cancelled,my coworkers will be forced to to do TPE-LAX or TPE-SFO. Both have arrival at just before 3PM (LAX has an even earlier 6AM'ish arrival). Both airports have much faster international arrival, and you can be onto another flight, by 4:30pm'ish, which is the afternoon commute and you can still get to middle of the country or east coast in reasonable amount of time before or around midnight...

eponymous_coward Dec 4, 2017 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by wlau (Post 29119465)
You don't fly enough.. if you are doing international trip TPAC/TATL 1-2 times a week, and on some type of plane 5-6 times a week, then you will understand... TPE-SEA arrives around 6pm +/- depend on daylight savings adjustment. SEA international arrival is a mess, so you have to spent a lot of time clear US custom. By the time you are done, you best not board connecting flight before 9pm or 10pm (daylight savings). Where can you go at that hour beyond a quick hop on the west coast?

With this TPE-SEA cancelled,my coworkers will be forced to to do TPE-LAX or TPE-SFO. Both have arrival at just before 3PM (LAX has an even earlier 6AM'ish arrival). Both airports have much faster international arrival, and you can be onto another flight, by 4:30pm'ish, which is the afternoon commute and you can still get to middle of the country or east coast in reasonable amount of time before or around midnight...

Right, that’s my point. The timings on 25/26 are bad for connections. Which I believe I just got through saying. Since we seem to be in violent agreement about the unsuitability of my home airport as a *A connection point, I suppose we’re done here?


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