First Timer to London/Paris
#31
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: manchester, uk
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Basically this, we're outside of Schengen anyway so it's not as if there's going to be additional border controls that weren't there before
#32
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Eurostar is owned and headquartered in Europe so I have no doubt they are pressing the EU and French and Belgian Governments in particular (as SNCF owns 55% and Belgian state railways 5% of Eurostar) to ensure it continue to operate normally whether there is a deal or no deal.
If necessary the French immigration officials will revert to the continent and the UK ones back to St Pancras and immigration will take place on arrival rather than departure (as per airline transport)
Over a quarter of all UK-EU trade in goods goes via the tunnel so there is an imperative to sort this - just like there is with ferry traffic.
All of this brexit nonsense that is been spouted is just nonsense and will have little, if any impact on the OP who is now probably worrying unduly rather than planning their holiday.
If necessary the French immigration officials will revert to the continent and the UK ones back to St Pancras and immigration will take place on arrival rather than departure (as per airline transport)
Over a quarter of all UK-EU trade in goods goes via the tunnel so there is an imperative to sort this - just like there is with ferry traffic.
All of this brexit nonsense that is been spouted is just nonsense and will have little, if any impact on the OP who is now probably worrying unduly rather than planning their holiday.
That is my view, be aware but don't necessarily be alarmed at this time. Anyway here are just a few suggestions hopefully to help the OP.
9 hour time difference between LA and Paris, jet lag is unavoidable. Just try to stay up as long as you can the first day.
2 hours a day extra daylight compared to LA, it should be light till around 10pm in Paris and later in London. It allows for a lot of evening sightseeing.
June is a great time to visit, second only to September in my opinion, but Northern Europe is wet, be ready for rain. The difference is that the rain is usually light compared to rain in the US so people just go about their business more or less as usual. Have a good lightweight rain jacket and a small umbrella, you can go anywhere and do anything.
I highly recommend the Eyewitness Travel Top Ten guide books. They are light, easy to carry in your pocket, cheap and filled with useful information.
9 hour time difference between LA and Paris, jet lag is unavoidable. Just try to stay up as long as you can the first day.
2 hours a day extra daylight compared to LA, it should be light till around 10pm in Paris and later in London. It allows for a lot of evening sightseeing.
June is a great time to visit, second only to September in my opinion, but Northern Europe is wet, be ready for rain. The difference is that the rain is usually light compared to rain in the US so people just go about their business more or less as usual. Have a good lightweight rain jacket and a small umbrella, you can go anywhere and do anything.
I highly recommend the Eyewitness Travel Top Ten guide books. They are light, easy to carry in your pocket, cheap and filled with useful information.
#33
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I am double-checking on your advice. So when you say stay up as long as possible on the first day, you. mean after we slept on the flight correct? You don't mean we stay awake through the entire 11 hour flight. Just wanting to confirm! Also I mentioned taking the 5:40am train out of London to Paris. I looked at sunrise schedules, do you know if daylight will be out by 5am? My lady friend is concerned we'll be leaving our hotel in the pitch black/dark. I told her the calendars seem to say sunrise is at 3:30am.
In terms of daylight in the UK, 3:30am to 4am sounds about right for June. Sun sets about 9:30pm to 10pm.
#34
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#35

Join Date: May 2015
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Yes you should sleep as much as possible on the flight. If you arrive in CDG early in the morning then it is a good idea to get a hotel room and try to sleep till midday. Don't sleep too long. Then go out, enjoy your day and try to get to bed at your normal sleeping time. That way you should avoid jetlag, the next day you should be on normal time. If you don't arrive very early, you have to fight through the day to stay awake as long as possible. It is very tempting to try to put your head down and get a nap late afternoon or early evening. My experience is that just messes you up and you will still suffer jetlag the next day. Others may disagree, but that is my experience. As noted above, sunrise will be earlier than you are used to.
#36
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Yes you should sleep as much as possible on the flight. If you arrive in CDG early in the morning then it is a good idea to get a hotel room and try to sleep till midday. Don't sleep too long. Then go out, enjoy your day and try to get to bed at your normal sleeping time. That way you should avoid jetlag, the next day you should be on normal time. If you don't arrive very early, you have to fight through the day to stay awake as long as possible. It is very tempting to try to put your head down and get a nap late afternoon or early evening. My experience is that just messes you up and you will still suffer jetlag the next day. Others may disagree, but that is my experience. As noted above, sunrise will be earlier than you are used to.
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