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Schengen visa extension question

Old Aug 10, 18, 12:39 pm
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Schengen visa extension question

My daughter is planning to study with North Carolina State University in Prague this coming Spring semester. They plan the semester so it is exactly 90 days, which uses up her entire Schengen Visa for 180 days. They do not require or ask for students to get a student visa.

We would like to visit her at the end of her studies and take her with us for a couple of weeks around Europe. How does she apply for a visa extension? Is it easy to get?

We also considered visiting Croatia, but we would have to fly her back through Germany. Is this a problem? It might be on her 91st day. Would she have to get a transit visa?

Any advice is appreciated. Thank you!
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Old Aug 10, 18, 8:51 pm
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She needs to check with the country that gave her the visa in the first place re any extensions. Overstaying a visa is not a good idea however innocuous the reason might appear to be.

What are the actual attendance / class dates rather than the term dates. They aren't always the same.
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Old Aug 11, 18, 6:06 pm
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A school scheduling a program for exactly 90 days and telling students not to get a visa almost seems reckless, what if her flight gets delayed a day?
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Old Aug 12, 18, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by iamflyer View Post
A school scheduling a program for exactly 90 days and telling students not to get a visa almost seems reckless, what if her flight gets delayed a day?
Assuming it is legal by Czech authorities to attend the semester on a tourist visa, I don't see how that's any different than other potential flight delays PAX can encounter causing them to have to stay longer than their visa is allowing them....
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Old Aug 12, 18, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Ditto View Post
Assuming it is legal by Czech authorities to attend the semester on a tourist visa
It seems to be allowed, questions 9 and 12:

9. For which purposes can I travel without a visa to the Schengen area?
You can come as a tourist, to visit friends or family, to attend cultural or spor
ts events or exchanges, business meetings, for journalistic or media purpos
es, medical treatment, for short-term studies or training and any similar activities.

12. Will I need to apply for a visa and/or study permit if I plan to trave
l to the Schengen area for short-term studies?
You will need to apply for a study permit only in case you intend to undertake studies exceeding 90
days of stay in the Schengen area within a period of 180 days. For longer studies you have to apply
for a study permit and the rules vary from country to country. Th
erefore it is recommended to consult the Embassy/Consulate of the
country in which you intend to study.
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Old Aug 12, 18, 5:13 pm
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If she is entering as a tourist (visa-free) then there is no way of extending the 90 days.

As long as the flights are booked on one ticket transiting through Germany from Croatia would not count as she would remain airside and would not (technically) enter Germany.
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Old Aug 12, 18, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Aviatrix View Post
If she is entering as a tourist (visa-free) then there is no way of extending the 90 days.

As long as the flights are booked on one ticket transiting through Germany from Croatia would not count as she would remain airside and would not (technically) enter Germany.
Yeah as long as it's Croatia - Germany - non-Schengen (with no intra-Schengen legs) it would be fine.

I guess, in theory, one could do ZAG-FRA-LON-ZRH-DUB-AMS or something and be fine as long as they never actually enter the country
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Old Aug 13, 18, 1:25 am
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She might get in trouble on her final way back home when she leaves the Schengen area. European and Schengen countries have out-going passport controls and they check passports and visas. While I doubt that she will face any serious consquences she has to be preapred that the border officer will ask her some questions why she stayed longer than 90 days. In the wort case she might get an entry in the Schengen Information System (SIS).
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Old Aug 13, 18, 4:26 pm
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If you want to spend some time travelling together at the end of your daughter's stay in Schengen then the one way in which she could extend her 90 days is by taking a few week-end breaks outside the Schengen area during her stay. Any days she spends outside Schengen can be tagged on at the end - so if she takes ten days' worth of week-end breaks outside Schengen (say in the UK, or Ireland or Croatia) that would give her ten days she can tag on at the end.
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Old Aug 14, 18, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by Aviatrix View Post
If you want to spend some time travelling together at the end of your daughter's stay in Schengen then the one way in which she could extend her 90 days is by taking a few week-end breaks outside the Schengen area during her stay. Any days she spends outside Schengen can be tagged on at the end - so if she takes ten days' worth of week-end breaks outside Schengen (say in the UK, or Ireland or Croatia) that would give her ten days she can tag on at the end.
While that is not a bad idea, even if she is in Schengen for a part of a day it counts, so that only really works if she can actually stay at least 2 nights in each of these weekend breaks.
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Old Aug 14, 18, 9:25 am
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The normal Schengen study procedure is that the student takes the university documents to the police and is issued a temporary residence card, then when this expires the student gets an additional 90 days tourist time added on after. The expired residency card can be presented at exit to prove no overstay. They should be able to offer and assist with some kind of process like this, and it is the way to go. Trying to get some kind of extension later likely won't work out.
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Old Aug 18, 18, 10:33 am
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Note that when they say 90 days, they count the first day as well as the departure day even if its early morning. Are these lessons going to start on the 1rst day and last until departure date? If not, she has to overstay. Depends the ocassion can have minimum sequences or given heavy fine or even ban.
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