Security/Customs/Immigration when Transiting Schengen Countries
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Security/Customs/Immigration when Transiting Schengen Countries
I have some upcoming travel and realize I've never encountered travel like this before, so questions regarding re-clearing security, claiming luggage, and clearing both immigration and customs
Some examples of flights include:
And the same for the reverse.
Can someone point me to either a thread or website that discusses these types of flights?
Thanks in advance
Some examples of flights include:
- TLV-ZRH-FRA (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via Schengen/non-EU)
- TLV-FCO-MXP (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via Schengen/EU)
- TLV-LHR-BCN (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via non-Schengen/EU)
- TLV-LHR-MAN (flying from non-EU/Schengen to non-Schengen/EU via non-Schengen/EU)
And the same for the reverse.
Can someone point me to either a thread or website that discusses these types of flights?
- When do I clear passport control in the different cases?
- Do I claim my bags at the same time as clearing passport control or at final destination?
- If I claim my bags at the final destination, how does that work for customs issues?
- Are all Schengen and EU countries considered 1 "secure zone" (a la the USA)?
Thanks in advance
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I have some upcoming travel and realize I've never encountered travel like this before, so questions regarding re-clearing security, claiming luggage, and clearing both immigration and customs
Some examples of flights include:
And the same for the reverse.
Can someone point me to either a thread or website that discusses these types of flights?
Thanks in advance
Some examples of flights include:
- TLV-ZRH-FRA (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via Schengen/non-EU)
- TLV-FCO-MXP (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via Schengen/EU)
- TLV-LHR-BCN (flying from non-EU/Schengen to Schengen/EU via non-Schengen/EU)
- TLV-LHR-MAN (flying from non-EU/Schengen to non-Schengen/EU via non-Schengen/EU)
And the same for the reverse.
Can someone point me to either a thread or website that discusses these types of flights?
- When do I clear passport control in the different cases?
- Do I claim my bags at the same time as clearing passport control or at final destination?
- If I claim my bags at the final destination, how does that work for customs issues?
- Are all Schengen and EU countries considered 1 "secure zone" (a la the USA)?
Thanks in advance
Clear customs for checked luggage at the final destination airport. This assumes the trips are on a single ticketed PNR.
Clear passport control on the return in ZRH, FCO, LHR and BCN, respectively, for reverse routings to get back to TLV.
All Schengen countries are generally considered a single secure zone for security screening purposes, but the UK always requires non-UK/IRL CTA passengers to reclear security screening at UK transit airports even as some EU Schengen airports do not require the same for transit passengers coming in from the UK/IRL CTA-originating flights. In other words, various Schengen countries may be fine with trusting UK/IRL security screening as being of the same secure zone as Schengen, but the immigration (and sometimes even customs) layout at the airport may make for different security screening treatment than for Schengen-Schengen transit passengers.
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Clear passport control in ZRH, FCO, LHR and LHR, respectively for the trips from TLV.
Clear customs for checked luggage at the final destination airport. This assumes the trips are on a single ticketed PNR.
Clear passport control on the return in ZRH, FCO, LHR and BCN, respectively, for reverse routings to get back to TLV.
All Schengen countries are generally considered a single secure zone for security screening purposes, but the UK always requires non-UK/IRL CTA passengers to reclear security screening at UK transit airports even as some EU Schengen airports do not require the same for transit passengers coming in from the UK/IRL CTA-originating flights. In other words, various Schengen countries may be fine with trusting UK/IRL security screening as being of the same secure zone as Schengen, but the immigration (and sometimes even customs) layout at the airport may make for different security screening treatment than for Schengen-Schengen transit passengers.
Clear customs for checked luggage at the final destination airport. This assumes the trips are on a single ticketed PNR.
Clear passport control on the return in ZRH, FCO, LHR and BCN, respectively, for reverse routings to get back to TLV.
All Schengen countries are generally considered a single secure zone for security screening purposes, but the UK always requires non-UK/IRL CTA passengers to reclear security screening at UK transit airports even as some EU Schengen airports do not require the same for transit passengers coming in from the UK/IRL CTA-originating flights. In other words, various Schengen countries may be fine with trusting UK/IRL security screening as being of the same secure zone as Schengen, but the immigration (and sometimes even customs) layout at the airport may make for different security screening treatment than for Schengen-Schengen transit passengers.
(Regarding customs - is it for any international flight or for any flight from non-EU to EU? Meaning, would FRA-LHR need to clear customs?)
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If I've cleared passport control at my first port of entry, how does that work with customs? Meaning, I assume I'll be coming off the plane with people who don't need to clear customs - how do they differentiate?
(Regarding customs - is it for any international flight or for any flight from non-EU to EU? Meaning, would FRA-LHR need to clear customs?)
(Regarding customs - is it for any international flight or for any flight from non-EU to EU? Meaning, would FRA-LHR need to clear customs?)
- Green - nothing to declare
- Red - items to declare
- Blue - intra-EU travel not subject to customs
If you originate within the EU your bag tags will have green stripes on them to indicate this. Naturally, green stripes mean you use the blue lane to exit.
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At EU airports, there are generally three exit lanes from the baggage hall for customs:
If you originate within the EU your bag tags will have green stripes on them to indicate this. Naturally, green stripes mean you use the blue lane to exit.
- Green - nothing to declare
- Red - items to declare
- Blue - intra-EU travel not subject to customs
If you originate within the EU your bag tags will have green stripes on them to indicate this. Naturally, green stripes mean you use the blue lane to exit.
Even on the return, such as BCN-LHR-TLV?
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Even on the return, yes, if speaking of BA/IB.
Yes, thanks for the correction.
When checking in my bags at an EU airport, I have sometimes gotten the green striped tags for my U.S.-bound non-stop flight from the EU.
I see green-striped and purple/red-striped bags bags arriving on my baggage claim belts at US airports of entry, including at such airports such as MSP and DEN.
I see green-striped and purple/red-striped bags bags arriving on my baggage claim belts at US airports of entry, including at such airports such as MSP and DEN.
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When checking in my bags at an EU airport, I have sometimes gotten the green striped tags for my U.S.-bound non-stop flight from the EU.
I see green-striped and purple/red-striped bags bags arriving on my baggage claim belts at US airports of entry, including at such airports such as MSP and DEN.
I see green-striped and purple/red-striped bags bags arriving on my baggage claim belts at US airports of entry, including at such airports such as MSP and DEN.
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Sjoerd, I thought that what you wrote was correct but on my last international trip from PRG to ORD (with a stopover in JFK) on DL, the green stripes were not on the baggage tag. Is this because it was on DL (a non-European airline)? I actually was thinking about how if my flight was cancelled and I had to reclaim my bag, it would likely then not allow me to go through the blue exit (although some European airports, which I think may include PRG seem to combine the blue and green lanes together).
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Sjoerd, I thought that what you wrote was correct but on my last international trip from PRG to ORD (with a stopover in JFK) on DL, the green stripes were not on the baggage tag. Is this because it was on DL (a non-European airline)? I actually was thinking about how if my flight was cancelled and I had to reclaim my bag, it would likely then not allow me to go through the blue exit (although some European airports, which I think may include PRG seem to combine the blue and green lanes together).
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One of my friends is traveling on KL from PBM to AMS and then on a different ticket directly on CX from AMS to HKG and MNL. How can she travel with 2 checked bags if she doesn't have a Schengen visa? She cannot pick up the bags and check them in again In AMS right?
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If I've cleared passport control at my first port of entry, how does that work with customs? Meaning, I assume I'll be coming off the plane with people who don't need to clear customs - how do they differentiate?
(Regarding customs - is it for any international flight or for any flight from non-EU to EU? Meaning, would FRA-LHR need to clear customs?)
(Regarding customs - is it for any international flight or for any flight from non-EU to EU? Meaning, would FRA-LHR need to clear customs?)
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