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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by Axey
If you buy the ticket ex-TIP and its issued outside (ie, you can get your hands on paper tickets before getting there) then technically you should be ok?
...not necessarily, some carriers can (and do) refuse transport (as noted in this thread on the LH forum.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by WindFlyer
...not necessarily, some carriers can (and do) refuse transport (as noted in this thread on the LH forum.
Hence my question about how lax EK is
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Axey
I suppose that's possible but very highly unlikely.. I dont see why they would subsidize tickets in the first place, but even if they did, still allowing one way tickets (which are also seemingly subsidized) to be booked is bizarre. The whole thing, like most things in libya, doesn't make a lot of sense
I doubt this also - they may require airlines to set lower fares ex-TIP (instead of subsidizing) and these airlines pressured the Goverment to limit the number of non-Libyians?

The one example I know where subsidizing did happen is Cuba paying a subsidy for each empty seat directly to European charter companies to ensure continued flights - as flight loads were often to low to be profitable. Though this was a few years back.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by Axey
Hence my question about how lax EK is
As with any carrier when you're holding ex-TIP tickets there is a risk involved. No one can say for sure what an airline check-in personnel will do at that moment. They know for sure that such tickets if not issued within Libya is not allowed, so the onus is on them for accepting such tickets.

So you are the only one who'd know if you dare to risk it and show up at check-in with a foreign issued ticket.
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
As with any carrier when you're holding ex-TIP tickets there is a risk involved. No one can say for sure what an airline check-in personnel will do at that moment. They know for sure that such tickets if not issued within Libya is not allowed, so the onus is on them for accepting such tickets.

So you are the only one who'd know if you dare to risk it and show up at check-in with a foreign issued ticket.
Once again -- YY tickets are NOT sales restricted. How do they "know for sure that such ticket not issued within Libya is not allowed"? I'm not trying to be smart, I'm just trying to understand what argument they can back this up with.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by Axey
I'm just trying to understand what argument they can back this up with.
Axey, I also don't understand it. I still guess, that the whole story of that "law", prohibiting so issue ex TIP tickets outside of Libya is a LH made fairytale or, to be less friendly, a lie.

What I also don't understand:

If this "law" would really exist, why isn't it possible to change the programming of the CRS, like Amadeus or Sabre? It would be easy to set a flag to avoid that an ex TIP routing (and fare calculation) will be issued outside Libya.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by Olip
Axey, I also don't understand it. I still guess, that the whole story of that "law", prohibiting so issue ex TIP tickets outside of Libya is a LH made fairytale or, to be less friendly, a lie.

What I also don't understand:

If this "law" would really exist, why isn't it possible to change the programming of the CRS, like Amadeus or Sabre? It would be easy to set a flag to avoid that an ex TIP routing (and fare calculation) will be issued outside Libya.
There is no restriction as to where you issue the ticket. Ex-TIP tickets can easily be issued by anyone on any carrier. It is not illegal to issue such tickets, but it is up to individual airlines to acceptance. LH, AF, OS, LX and a few others have decided that they would not accept such tickets if issued outside of Libya. Libyan issued tickets would therefore adhere to the regulation that one must be a Libyan resident to hold such tickets.

Your reservation is accepted. Just not the ticket you have in your hand if it is issued outside Libya. There have already been documented cases where fellow FT members have been refused passage by said airlines on said tickets.

Acceptance of ticket is based on individual airline choice - or rather airport personnel who may be scrutinizing tickets that day. Would you risk it?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 4:36 am
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Hallo

Does anyone know if I am able to fly Ex TIP again?
I plan a trip from TIP- AKL- TIP in F. summer 2007
My preferred airline is Emirates
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by AN_Boy
It is against Libyan law to do this and if it is only issued as a PTA then you will NOT get your ticket issued in Tripoli.
what is PTA?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by novacatz
what is PTA?
"Pre-paid ticket advice", tells the ticketing office in this case in TIP to issue the ticket, as you have already paid for it in your home country.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 3:48 pm
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 5:41 am
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:38 pm
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ok so if I actually fly to TIP, can I buy an ex-TIP ticket even though I am not a resident of Libya? i.e. buy it there at airport or travel agent.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 3:03 pm
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According to this thread you should be fine. (Specifically post #16.) I have pasted the appopriate parts below:

Originally Posted by rcs85551
The Government of Lybia mandates that all tickets originating from Lybia must be sold in Lybia, and paid for there. Hence, all the airlines have advised their staff as well as travel agents with regards to this rule.

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FYI, here is the reminder SWISS has sent to travel agents:
Code:
                       UNITED KINGDOM        EN  12JUL05 0648Z                 
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     **** IMPORTANT **** IMPORTANT **** IMPORTANT ****                          
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 **************************************************  *********                    
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 WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT NO **SOTO** TICKETS ARE PERMITTED OUT                    
 OF TIP AND BEN I.E. ALL TICKETS STARTING IN LIBYA MUST BE                      
 ISSUED IN LIBYA.IE ONLY SITI TRANSACTIONS ARE VALID                            
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 NO EXCEPTION CAN BE MADE AND SWISS  AT TRIPOLI AIRPORT WILL                    
 NOT ACCEPT ANY SUCH                                                            
 TICKETS ANYMORE. THIS REGULATION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ALL                         
 AIRLINES OPERATING OUT OF LIBYA BY CIVIL AVIATION OF LIBYA.                    
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 PLEASE STRICTLY STICK TO THIS RULE.                                            
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 PTA **** PTA NOT ACCEPTED IN LIBYA                                             
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 **************************************************  *******
Therefore, as long as the transaction is SITI, you should be fine.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by sadiqhassan
According to this thread you should be fine...

Therefore, as long as the transaction is SITI, you should be fine.
A SITI ticket would be fine; however, can one get an ex-TIP SITI ticket without a) being a citizen of Lybia or b) holding a work visa for Lybia?

My understanding was that one could not... anyone know for sure?
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