TIP fares
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Originally Posted by Axey
If you buy the ticket ex-TIP and its issued outside (ie, you can get your hands on paper tickets before getting there) then technically you should be ok?
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Originally Posted by WindFlyer
...not necessarily, some carriers can (and do) refuse transport (as noted in this thread on the LH forum.
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Originally Posted by Axey
I suppose that's possible but very highly unlikely.. I dont see why they would subsidize tickets in the first place, but even if they did, still allowing one way tickets (which are also seemingly subsidized) to be booked is bizarre. The whole thing, like most things in libya, doesn't make a lot of sense 

The one example I know where subsidizing did happen is Cuba paying a subsidy for each empty seat directly to European charter companies to ensure continued flights - as flight loads were often to low to be profitable. Though this was a few years back.
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Originally Posted by Axey
Hence my question about how lax EK is 

So you are the only one who'd know if you dare to risk it and show up at check-in with a foreign issued ticket.
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
As with any carrier when you're holding ex-TIP tickets there is a risk involved. No one can say for sure what an airline check-in personnel will do at that moment. They know for sure that such tickets if not issued within Libya is not allowed, so the onus is on them for accepting such tickets.
So you are the only one who'd know if you dare to risk it and show up at check-in with a foreign issued ticket.
So you are the only one who'd know if you dare to risk it and show up at check-in with a foreign issued ticket.
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Originally Posted by Axey
I'm just trying to understand what argument they can back this up with.
What I also don't understand:
If this "law" would really exist, why isn't it possible to change the programming of the CRS, like Amadeus or Sabre? It would be easy to set a flag to avoid that an ex TIP routing (and fare calculation) will be issued outside Libya.
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Originally Posted by Olip
Axey, I also don't understand it. I still guess, that the whole story of that "law", prohibiting so issue ex TIP tickets outside of Libya is a LH made fairytale or, to be less friendly, a lie.
What I also don't understand:
If this "law" would really exist, why isn't it possible to change the programming of the CRS, like Amadeus or Sabre? It would be easy to set a flag to avoid that an ex TIP routing (and fare calculation) will be issued outside Libya.
What I also don't understand:
If this "law" would really exist, why isn't it possible to change the programming of the CRS, like Amadeus or Sabre? It would be easy to set a flag to avoid that an ex TIP routing (and fare calculation) will be issued outside Libya.
Your reservation is accepted. Just not the ticket you have in your hand if it is issued outside Libya. There have already been documented cases where fellow FT members have been refused passage by said airlines on said tickets.
Acceptance of ticket is based on individual airline choice - or rather airport personnel who may be scrutinizing tickets that day. Would you risk it?
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Originally Posted by novacatz
what is PTA?
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Where to check the fares
Hi,
As the fare engine I used to use earlier stopped working, what is a good fare engine to check these fares?
Thanks for help.
As the fare engine I used to use earlier stopped working, what is a good fare engine to check these fares?
Thanks for help.
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According to this thread you should be fine. (Specifically post #16.) I have pasted the appopriate parts below:
Therefore, as long as the transaction is SITI, you should be fine.
Cheers
Originally Posted by rcs85551
The Government of Lybia mandates that all tickets originating from Lybia must be sold in Lybia, and paid for there. Hence, all the airlines have advised their staff as well as travel agents with regards to this rule.
...
FYI, here is the reminder SWISS has sent to travel agents:
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FYI, here is the reminder SWISS has sent to travel agents:
Code:
UNITED KINGDOM EN 12JUL05 0648Z
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**** IMPORTANT **** IMPORTANT **** IMPORTANT ****
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WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT NO **SOTO** TICKETS ARE PERMITTED OUT
OF TIP AND BEN I.E. ALL TICKETS STARTING IN LIBYA MUST BE
ISSUED IN LIBYA.IE ONLY SITI TRANSACTIONS ARE VALID
*
NO EXCEPTION CAN BE MADE AND SWISS AT TRIPOLI AIRPORT WILL
NOT ACCEPT ANY SUCH
TICKETS ANYMORE. THIS REGULATION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ALL
AIRLINES OPERATING OUT OF LIBYA BY CIVIL AVIATION OF LIBYA.
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PLEASE STRICTLY STICK TO THIS RULE.
************************************************** **********
PTA **** PTA NOT ACCEPTED IN LIBYA
*
************************************************** *******
Cheers
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Originally Posted by sadiqhassan
According to this thread you should be fine...
Therefore, as long as the transaction is SITI, you should be fine.
Therefore, as long as the transaction is SITI, you should be fine.
My understanding was that one could not... anyone know for sure?

