Itinerary Change by Emirates -- my rights?
#17
Join Date: Jan 2010
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You're OK, it wasn't directed at you. If memory serves me, I'd made a post in haste which I decided was "not worth it".
#18
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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After submitting the Refund Request form on 04 August, I still have not received any confirmation from Emirates that the refund request has been approved. However, on the Emirates website, my itinerary from Manage My Booking has been removed. Calling the Customer Service telephone lines and talking to Sanjeev or Indira or Princess (Heidi) is also not much help, as they refuse to send out any confirmation email that the refund has been approved.
#19
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How did you send the refund? Using a form, email, CS call?
#20
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https://www.emirates.com/ae/english/help/
Type in "Refund Request" into the search field and click on "Search". And fill in the data requested; make sure you have available the booking reference, ticket number, itinerary, etc. In comments, be sure to ask for cash refund if that is what you want, instead of a future use voucher.
Type in "Refund Request" into the search field and click on "Search". And fill in the data requested; make sure you have available the booking reference, ticket number, itinerary, etc. In comments, be sure to ask for cash refund if that is what you want, instead of a future use voucher.
Last edited by tangoll; Aug 16, 2020 at 3:48 pm Reason: Added last few sentences.
#21
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hong Kong
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Have finally received the below email message from Emirates HK office:
"Dear tangollThank you for your email message. Having reviewed your booking record history, XXXXXX, refund application was received on 05 August. Our Refund Team will send you an email when refund is processed. Please be assured that your ticket will be refunded, it may take a longer time to process in view of the current situation. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Emirates Hong Kong office Customer Affairs"
So all good.
"Dear tangollThank you for your email message. Having reviewed your booking record history, XXXXXX, refund application was received on 05 August. Our Refund Team will send you an email when refund is processed. Please be assured that your ticket will be refunded, it may take a longer time to process in view of the current situation. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Emirates Hong Kong office Customer Affairs"
So all good.
#22
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Have finally received the below email message from Emirates HK office:
"Dear tangollThank you for your email message. Having reviewed your booking record history, XXXXXX, refund application was received on 05 August. Our Refund Team will send you an email when refund is processed. Please be assured that your ticket will be refunded, it may take a longer time to process in view of the current situation. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Emirates Hong Kong office Customer Affairs"
So all good.
"Dear tangollThank you for your email message. Having reviewed your booking record history, XXXXXX, refund application was received on 05 August. Our Refund Team will send you an email when refund is processed. Please be assured that your ticket will be refunded, it may take a longer time to process in view of the current situation. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Emirates Hong Kong office Customer Affairs"
So all good.
#23
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 612
Today I was advised of a fraudulent charge of 3,000 euros against my credit card. Bank handling the M/C reversed the charge and terminated the account number and will issue me a new card, so no problem there. Within the last 10 days, I had 3 transactions:
1. A local payment for a new car in Hong Kong, 2. a minor charge to Expedia for a hotel stay in HK, and 3. advice from Emirates that my refund is approved and will be processed. The fraudulent charge was from a hostel/bar in Mallorca Spain. I've been locked down in HK since Feb, 2020. I doubt if the no. 1 or 2 charges are involved. I'm guessing that whoever is handling the refund from Emirates is the source, since they know the original form of payment, which is that credit card.
Now, I have to deal with getting the refund from Emirates to be paid to a different credit card number; not sure how involved that would be. But just a query to ask if anyone waiting for a refund from Emirates has encountered a similar fraudulent charge?
1. A local payment for a new car in Hong Kong, 2. a minor charge to Expedia for a hotel stay in HK, and 3. advice from Emirates that my refund is approved and will be processed. The fraudulent charge was from a hostel/bar in Mallorca Spain. I've been locked down in HK since Feb, 2020. I doubt if the no. 1 or 2 charges are involved. I'm guessing that whoever is handling the refund from Emirates is the source, since they know the original form of payment, which is that credit card.
Now, I have to deal with getting the refund from Emirates to be paid to a different credit card number; not sure how involved that would be. But just a query to ask if anyone waiting for a refund from Emirates has encountered a similar fraudulent charge?
#24
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YYC
Posts: 2,074
Can't comment on the nature of the fraud, but to answer your first part - getting transactions refunded to changed card numbers or even closed accounts is something that happens on a routine basis every day. It should be seamless if you still hold the account open but simply with a different card number.
#25
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 612
Getting Police to Investigate
Since charge came from a Hostel/Bar in Mallorca Spain, I have sent a letter to local police in Mallorca to investigate this fraudulent charge. I have my suspicions as to where the source of the card details came from. Thus, I have sent out a 2nd letter to the police in a another locale. I hope something comes out of these investigations.
Last edited by tangoll; Aug 29, 2020 at 9:17 am Reason: minor editing
#26
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Today I was advised of a fraudulent charge of 3,000 euros against my credit card. Bank handling the M/C reversed the charge and terminated the account number and will issue me a new card, so no problem there. Within the last 10 days, I had 3 transactions:
1. A local payment for a new car in Hong Kong, 2. a minor charge to Expedia for a hotel stay in HK, and 3. advice from Emirates that my refund is approved and will be processed. The fraudulent charge was from a hostel/bar in Mallorca Spain. I've been locked down in HK since Feb, 2020. I doubt if the no. 1 or 2 charges are involved. I'm guessing that whoever is handling the refund from Emirates is the source, since they know the original form of payment, which is that credit card.
Now, I have to deal with getting the refund from Emirates to be paid to a different credit card number; not sure how involved that would be. But just a query to ask if anyone waiting for a refund from Emirates has encountered a similar fraudulent charge?
1. A local payment for a new car in Hong Kong, 2. a minor charge to Expedia for a hotel stay in HK, and 3. advice from Emirates that my refund is approved and will be processed. The fraudulent charge was from a hostel/bar in Mallorca Spain. I've been locked down in HK since Feb, 2020. I doubt if the no. 1 or 2 charges are involved. I'm guessing that whoever is handling the refund from Emirates is the source, since they know the original form of payment, which is that credit card.
Now, I have to deal with getting the refund from Emirates to be paid to a different credit card number; not sure how involved that would be. But just a query to ask if anyone waiting for a refund from Emirates has encountered a similar fraudulent charge?
#27
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 612
Bank Confirms Same
The refund will still be issued to the same account. Not even worth a call and if you do make one, it will gum up the refund for a long time to come. Your card issuer is well-equipped to handle posting the credit to the new number (same account, new number). Because the number used to purchase the ticket was terminated due to fraud, all credits simply go to the new number.
#28
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Reciprocity is the Key here.
#29
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Sorry, but no sympathy here. When Emirates wants payment for a ticket or a change fee, immediate payment is required. When Emirates "promises" a refund, they say, sorry because of unusual circumstances, we will refund 60-90 days and maybe even longer, without any promise of a specific date. And we have no viable recourse if the refund doesn't happen or is further delayed without explanation. How fair is that?
To be honest your 100% correct, example BA refund my ticket immediately, my friend also deferent route and date without single question or offers such as voucher or change date.
with emirates they well ask if you want voucher or they well say it's ok for two years bla bla, they well try everything to keep the cash !!
#30
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Sorry, but no sympathy here. When Emirates wants payment for a ticket or a change fee, immediate payment is required. When Emirates "promises" a refund, they say, sorry because of unusual circumstances, we will refund 60-90 days and maybe even longer, without any promise of a specific date. And we have no viable recourse if the refund doesn't happen or is further delayed without explanation. How fair is that?