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LeoTheLion Jan 16, 2018 9:32 pm

Hi folks,I'm nowhere near experienced as many of the regular posters on here, I tried the trail period on EF, but couldn't understand the site.

I often see similar codes below on this thread, but don't understand what these codes mean, example below:

14mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0

Can anyone spare a few minutes to explain.

Saltire74 Jan 16, 2018 10:32 pm

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Originally Posted by LeoTheLion (Post 29302177)
Hi folks,I'm nowhere near experienced as many of the regular posters on here, I tried the trail period on EF, but couldn't understand the site.

I often see similar codes below on this thread, but don't understand what these codes mean, example below:

14mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0

Can anyone spare a few minutes to explain.

I’ll try and explain some of it and sure others will be able to go into finer detail.

F & A = First Class seats.
J, C, I, O & P = Business Class seats
Y to X = Economy Class seats

The numbers associated with each letter denotes the number of seats in each sub-Class that the airline are willing to sell at that time although the higher the number in each sub-class or fare bucket usually indicates good availability and not (the actual) amount of seats that are available.

Someone else should be able to clarify [[i]but I'm not sure of the redemption buckets on EK (may be X & P- don’t shoot me if I’m wrong) so if they are, looking at those numbers there are no redemption seats available on that flight.] not redemption buckets and clarified in next thread.

[Also not sure how many seats EK are willing to oversell in F but going by the numbers here, it would indicate that they are willing to currently sell 8 seats which, if this is a 777 flight, may indicate there are currently no F bookings or maybe 1 or 2.] not quite right and clarified in next two threads.

Maybe not not the best explanation but hopefully something to get you started with to get your head around it ��

S


ft101 Jan 17, 2018 12:21 am

Reward buckets are not shown in this example, but are available with a different enquiry on EF. You can see the codes here (if the link works):

https://www.expertflyer.com/sessionlessClassList.do

It's not necessarily 8 First class for sale - you can't add the numbers up like that. However, there is a cap on the numbers EF show, so minimum of 4 in First, 7 in Business and 9 in Economy.

thijsseh Jan 17, 2018 12:33 am


Originally Posted by LeoTheLion (Post 29302177)
Hi folks,I'm nowhere near experienced as many of the regular posters on here, I tried the trail period on EF, but couldn't understand the site.

I often see similar codes below on this thread, but don't understand what these codes mean, example below:

14mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0

Can anyone spare a few minutes to explain.

The explanation by Saltire74 above is pretty much correct, with one exception, which is that one must not ADD the seats for sale in the different fare buckets. To use Salitire74’s example, there are 4 first class seats for sale, in either the F or the A bucket. In addition, the maximum number given is 4 for first, 7 for business and 9 for economy (those are the numbers for EK and the majority of other airlines but it’s not universally the case). In effect, this means that in the example you give, the airline will sell 4 or more seats in first, 7 or more in business and 9 or more in economy. When you see the same numbers in the lower fare buckets (A, C, E etc) this is an indication that there are probably quite a few more seats for sale.

As far as award seats are concerned, these are NOT included in the above EF query! To get award / upgrade availability you use the appropriate menu option, being the top left blue ‘tab’ in the EF menu.

Once you get to know EF it’s really useful. You can access pretty good user guides / recommendations through the website. If your free trial has expired, just spend the $9.99 for a month. You can stop and restart the subscription at any time, which I think is a great feature for ‘not all that frequent flyers’ like myself.

Edit: oops, ft101 beat me to it with a much less wordy explanation!

Saltire74 Jan 17, 2018 4:46 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 29302569)
Reward buckets are not shown in this example, but are available with a different enquiry on EF. You can see the codes here (if the link works):

https://www.expertflyer.com/sessionlessClassList.do

It's not necessarily 8 First class for sale - you can't add the numbers up like that. However, there is a cap on the numbers EF show, so minimum of 4 in First, 7 in Business and 9 in Economy.


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 29302589)


The explanation by Saltire74 above is pretty much correct, with one exception, which is that one must not ADD the seats for sale in the different fare buckets. To use Salitire74’s example, there are 4 first class seats for sale, in either the F or the A bucket. In addition, the maximum number given is 4 for first, 7 for business and 9 for economy (those are the numbers for EK and the majority of other airlines but it’s not universally the case). In effect, this means that in the example you give, the airline will sell 4 or more seats in first, 7 or more in business and 9 or more in economy. When you see the same numbers in the lower fare buckets (A, C, E etc) this is an indication that there are probably quite a few more seats for sale.

As far as award seats are concerned, these are NOT included in the above EF query! To get award / upgrade availability you use the appropriate menu option, being the top left blue ‘tab’ in the EF menu.

Once you get to know EF it’s really useful. You can access pretty good user guides / recommendations through the website. If your free trial has expired, just spend the $9.99 for a month. You can stop and restart the subscription at any time, which I think is a great feature for ‘not all that frequent flyers’ like myself.

Edit: oops, ft101 beat me to it with a much less wordy explanation!

Thanks from me for clarifying that bit for me too :D

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LeoTheLion Jan 17, 2018 9:32 am

Ah, if I understand the explanations correctly, the letter denotes the class / fare type, the number denotes the availability of seats?

skywardhunter Jan 17, 2018 11:29 am


Originally Posted by LeoTheLion (Post 29303941)
Ah, if I understand the explanations correctly, the letter denotes the class / fare type, the number denotes the availability of seats?

Yes it's the fare buckets and availability. For Economy fares it shows a maximum of 9, 9 meaning 9 or more. For Business cabins it shows a maximum of 7 and for First a maximum of 4, generally. You can't add the buckets, if you have M R5 and buy an R ticket M will also reduce to 4.

LeoTheLion Jan 17, 2018 12:19 pm

Thanks for all the helpful informative replies, I have no status other than blue, I have an 18hr combined flight coming up, I'm considering paying for upgrade from KUL - BHX via Dubai

S c 0 TT y Jan 20, 2018 10:08 am

Wed 24th jan: Ek 303
thu 25th jan: ek 027

thank you in advance

Saltire74 Jan 20, 2018 10:39 am


Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y (Post 29316917)
Wed 24th jan: Ek 303
thu 25th jan: ek 027

thank you in advance

As per the Wiki S c 0 TT y, please remember and put in origin and destination airports as well as flight numbers & dates. The tools used to check the flight loads require all of this info.

Cheers

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S c 0 TT y Jan 20, 2018 9:10 pm

Apologies.

Wed 24th jan: Ek 303 (shanghai to dubai, departure 2300hrs)
thu 25th jan: ek 027 (Dubai to Glasgow, departure 0730 hrs)

thank you in advance

thijsseh Jan 21, 2018 12:12 am


Originally Posted by S c 0 TT y (Post 29318910)
Apologies.

Wed 24th jan: Ek 303 (shanghai to dubai, departure 2300hrs)
thu 25th jan: ek 027 (Dubai to Glasgow, departure 0730 hrs)

thank you in advance

3030PVG
24/01/18 23:00DXB
25/01/18 5:15388
Daily
100% / 0mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0
https://www.expertflyer.com/air/incl...xclamation.png https://www.expertflyer.com/air/incl...es/details.png https://www.expertflyer.com/air/incl...s/seat-map.png

EK 270DXB
25/01/18 7:20GLA
25/01/18 11:3077W
Daily
89% / 14mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V0 X0


May I suggest you get a subscription to EF? Very good value at $9.99 per month and you can 'switch it on and off' to suit your travel pattern!

Kingb123 Jan 29, 2018 6:24 pm

Hi there,

I was wondering if it was possible for someone to check the flight load for EK630 for 31st January Dubai to Multan.

Thank you.

rebr Jan 29, 2018 11:33 pm

First ever request, just curious if there's any chance for an op-up from Y-J (Flex), have been upgraded on routes to India a few times before, never to BOM though.

Date of flight: February 2, 2018
Flight Number: EK508
Origin: DXB
Destination: BOM

thijsseh Jan 30, 2018 12:15 am


Originally Posted by Kingb123 (Post 29355411)
Hi there,

I was wondering if it was possible for someone to check the flight load for EK630 for 31st January Dubai to Multan.

Thank you.

6300DXB
31/01/18 15:15MUX
31/01/18 18:5577W
Su,M,W,F
44% / 27mJ7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

If you have the right tier / ticket type combination this looks like a reasonable op up possibility!


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