EK 4070MEL
30/11/19 22:30DXB
01/12/19 5:40388
Daily
89% / 20mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U0 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Well, on Instagram I see the happy family in J (it's you, isn't it)?
Don't know if it was a Y to J or a J to F you were aiming for.....

Load check
 

Hey , am flying in this flight in Y (Flex) in a few hours. The seat map looks quite full (7 unallocated). Can someone please check the flight load.

- 09 DEC 19
- EK 406
- origin: DXB
- Destination: MEL

thanks in advance

4060DXB
09/12/19 9:55MEL
10/12/19 6:25388
Daily
85% / 18mF2 A0 J7 C7 I7 O7 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0Not that full.

For reference: left 23 light in Y.

I think the flight load request goes out the window at Y9 I doubt there is any comfort in knowing there are 23 spare seats still lol.

Knowing what availability is vs physical capacity may offer insight in whether a flight is actually overbooked, but I will omit this in the future if you do not think this is helpful :)

Why?

plenty of y9 flights are overbooked in y

Yes, indeed, I got an op up a few days a go on a flight showing Y9 but that only highlights even more why the flight load requests are pretty pointless. I had a flight 3 weeks ago showing Y0 from a week out. As a plat on a Flex+ I did not get an op up.

When you fly often enough you begin to see how little the info is worth on EF as there are so many factors that can alter the info you are seeing.

Y9 can mean empty flight and can also mean an overbooked flight, so why bother asking?

Actually the opposite, I was making a joke out of how pointless EF is but If you can offer a service that provides real life useful info then tell me where to sign up, ill pay the 6 quid a month fee...!

I can pretty much determine if a flight is overbooked a few days out looking at the seat map plus the loads. I think it’s very easy to tell when a flight is very busy but harder to tell when j and f are light with heavy y loads hence the y 9 because Ek are happy to sell even the cheaper y fares last minute

Apologies for the very delayed response.
Yes - that was us - good IG spotting ;) Ended up using miles to upgrade Y-J assuming (hoping) that our little man would sleep for the 2nd half of the flight. He didn't. Thankfully he was very well behaved, though Mum & Dad couldn't capitalize on the J menu.

Hi folks,

Would someone be so kind to check out the below flight load request?

EK448 - Wednesday 25 December
DXB
AKL

Thanks!

Wide open down to "U" in Economy.

Thanks a bunch ft101

A little fairy told me there are 7 physical seats left in economy with plenty in business and first

A perfect example m3red

Even more difficult to tell if there are not many status pax on board and or lots of saver tickets sold meaning nothing showing on the seat map for their seats before OLCI.

Somewhere between 24 and 48 hours before online check in opens, seats are allocated to all those who haven't paid or haven't the Skywards status to select. This is the point where you can really see just how full it's going to be or not.

I would have to disagree with this due to recent experience. There are too many variables to ever say you will really know how full it is. My last op-up was still showing 25 seats empty in Y when I checked in and Y9 on EF. The flight before that was Y0 from a week out yet I didn’t get an op-up as a plat on a Y flex+.

Could have been any of these:
- no shows
- misconnections
- capacity change
- staff causing upgrades
- route specific (certain routes have little noshows (JP) so cannot be overbooked heavily)

I tend to agree with m3red but also do think it's not always as straightforward.

Don't forget payload!

FWIW the EK forecasting tool is eerily accurate though - but that doesn't filter down to customer facing information sources (direct or indirect).

Ultimately you're going to be in the hands of the load controller and especially at outstations there are lots of factors that can throw things off.

:D

It's the absolute worst when it's just about 99% forecast load and you know there's some STF but it might go either way...so you grudgingly have to spend miles to guarantee the upgrade :(

Yep, many of us will have done exactly that.....:(

Yes, always going to be too difficult and seeing the seat map fill up just gives you a bit of hope, as even then there's up to 30 bulkhead/exit seats that may be blocked.

Hi there - not sure if it’s too early but could someone please check the loads for:

EK407
MEL to DXB
5 Jan

EK1
DXB to LHR
6 Jan

Booked as one ticket, QF codes, but keen to see what load is like.

Thanks so much.

Never understood why people call this "loads", it is simply availability. That being said,

EK405 -
F4 A2 J7 C7 I7 O0 H0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

EK1
F0 A0 J3 C0 I0 O0 H0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Thank you very much for your help!

I’m fairly sure I’m passed my quota for “should really have my own EF account” but I’d appreciate a look at EK018 MAN->DXB on 5th Jan please.

I’ve just checked in online and saw no seats available to switch to in J so I guess it is full.

I’m Skywards Gold on a J Flex ticket so in upgrade territory.

Thanks

f1 j4 y9 e9 r9 w9 m9 b9

Seat map shows three unallocated J seats (6D, 21 B/D) and one unallocated F seat (4K). You can see that in EF with a free account!

Thanks. Alas. Unlikely upgrade 😪

No chance that’s there are no pilots/ Platinum members of golds using miles that won’t take that seat I’m afraid

Can I please get a Y load check:

EK236
14th January
ORD-DXB

If the flight isn't too full in Y, our family of 4 can spread out a little. Thanks so much!

Quite early and a lot can change in 8 days. Nevertheless, availability is:

EK2360ORD
14/01/20 19:45DXB
15/01/20 19:1077W
Daily
77% / 21mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H2 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0

Thank you!! Just for clarification, does it mean that the flight is 77% empty in Y?

No it doesn't. This is availability. No idea how you reached that conclusion.

It only means that the airline is prepared to sell at least 9 seats in economy. Nothing more than that. The fact that they are prepared to sell them in quite a cheap fare bucket (L) suggests that at this moment there is quite a lot of space, but that’s a guess. This availability check is really not a good prediction of how full the flight will be on the day, especially 8 days out.

Thank you, appreciate the clarification!

I think the 77% in the data means 77% on time, with the "21m" meaning average 21 minutes late.