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01 January 2017
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily A380 to daily B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily A380 to daily B77W (since 21DEC)
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly to 6 weekly with B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W

06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB (until 01APR)
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended (until 01APR)

01 February 2017
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W
BCN (EK185/186) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380

12 March 2017
ATH (EK105/106) terminator service suspended
ATH EWR (EK209/210) new daily with B77W

26 March 2017
FCO (EK095/096) from daily A380 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service reinstated with B77W
LCA ATH (EK107/108) five weekly routing suspended
LCA MLA (EK109/110) reinstated daily routing with B77W
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAX (EK217/218) from daily A380 to daily B77L
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GRU (EK261/262) from daily B77W to daily A380
NRT (EK318/319) from daily B77W to daily A380
PER (EK424/425) from daily A380 to daily B77W
SEZ (EK707/708) from daily B77L to daily B77W
TUN (EK747/748) reinstated five weekly service with B77W
MLA TUN (EK749) five weekly routing suspended
CMN (EK751/752) from daily B77W to daily A380
JNB (EK763/764) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from daily B77W to daily B77L

03 April 2017
JNB (EK761/762) from daily A380 to B77W

01 May 2017
ATH (EK103/104) new second daily with B77W
LAX (EK217/218) flight suspended

01 June 2017
ZAG (EK129/130) new daily with B77W
FLL (EK213/214) from daily to 5 weekly B77L
MCO (EK219/220) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
SEA (EK227/228) flight suspended
BOS (EK239/240) flight suspended
INC CGO (EK326/327) from 4 weekly to 3 weekly B77L
NBO (EK717/718) new third daily with B77W

06 June 2017
DOH all flights suspended

01 July 2017
CDG (EK071/072) from 3-class A380 to 2-class A380
NCE (EK077/078) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PVG (EK304/305) from daily B77W to daily A380
PEK (EK308/309) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) new second daily with 2-class B77W
RGN PNH (EK388/389) new daily with 2-class B77W
HAN (EK394/395) new terminator with 2-class B77W

07 July 2017
ICN (EK328/329) new weekly with A380

10 July 2017
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to 3 weekly B77W (B77L from 27th July)

13 July 2017
SYD AKL (EK418/419) flight suspended

08 August 2017
KRT (EK733/734) from 5 weekly to daily B77W

01 September 2017
MUC (EK053/054) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MAD (EK143/144) from daily B77W to daily A380
MRU (EK703/704) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BHX (EK041/042) flight suspended

01 October 2017
TPE (EK366/367) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 3-class A380
BKK HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
BKK (EK376/377) from daily 3-class A380 to daily 2-class A380
DME (EK133/134) from daily B77W to daily A380

29 October 2017
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight suspended
BRU (EK181/182) new second daily with B77W
CAI (EK925/926) from 3 weekly to daily B77W
ZAG (EK129/130) from daily to 5 weekly B77W
TUN (EK747/748) from 6 weekly to daily B77W

17 November 2017
MLE (EK660/661) new thrice weekly with B77W

01 December 2017
GVA (EK083/084) from daily B77L to daily B77W
BNE (EK430/431) new third daily with B77L

08 December 2017
ARN (EK155/156) new seasonal 3 weekly with B77W

13 December 2017
ALG (EK757/758) from 6 weekly to daily B77W

15 December 2017
LOS (EK781/782) flight resumption with daily B77W
ABV (EK785/786) flight resumption with four weekly B773

25 December 2017
MLE (EK660/661) from thrice weekly to daily B77W

01 January 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77L to daily B77W

25 March 2018
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
MEL (EK408/409) from daily B77W to daily A380
ATH (EK103/104) flight resumption with daily B77W
SYD (EK416/417) new fourth daily with A380

08 June 2018
STN (EK33/34) new daily with B77W
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Old Mar 30, 2017, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by Metanoia
Has anyone figured out the net balance of airframes, i.e. are they parking any frames or going into maintenance?
The A380 delivery rate was abruptly slowed down. One completed 3-class A380 (A6-EUR) has been put directly into storage in Toulouse.
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Old Mar 31, 2017, 8:45 am
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New reductions

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272111/emirates-2q17-service-changes/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=airlineroute&utm_camp aign=airlineroute&utm_content=airlineroute-20170331

Emirates between April and June 2017 is adjusting operations on selected routes, including aircraft changes or frequency reduction. Planned service changes as follow.

Dubai – Bangkok Service reduction from 7 to 5-6 daily
EK376/377 Cancelled during following period: 14MAY17 – 12JUN17 (Except 15MAY17, 31MAY17, 04JUN17, 06JUN17)
EK350/351 Cancelled during following period: 04MAY17 – 31MAY17 (DXB departure)

Dubai – Jeddah 26MAR17 – 30APR17 3 daily service operated by 777-300ER, replacing A380
Dubai – Manchester EK021/022 operated by 777-300ER, replacing A380 during following period: 08MAY17 – 22JUN17 (Except 21MAY17 – 31MAY17; Overall 2 daily A380, 1 daily 777)
Dubai – Perth 30APR17 – 09MAY17 EK424/425 777-200LR replaces -300ER
Dubai – Seattle EK227/228 service reductions from 7 weekly to following
05MAY17 – 21MAY17 5 weekly (Overall service reduce from 14 to 12 weekly)
22MAY17 – 11JUN17 4 weekly (Overall 11 weekly)
15JUN17 – 25JUN17 6 weekly (Overall 13 weekly)

Previously reported changes:
Dubai – Beijing 01APR17 – 30APR17 EK306/307 777-300ER replaces A380 (Overall 2 daily 777)
Dubai – Birmingham 08MAY17 – 31MAY17 Reduce from 3 to 2 daily, EK041/042 cancelled
Dubai – Dusseldorf 08MAY17 – 29JUN17 EK057/058 777-300ER replaces A380
Dubai – London Gatwick 03MAY17 – 22JUN17 EK011/012 777-300ER replaces A380
Dubai – Los Angeles 01MAY17 – 30JUN17 EK217/218 cancelled (Reduce from 2 to 1 daily)
Dubai – Munich 01MAY17 – 31JUL17 EK053/054 777-300ER replaces A380
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Old Mar 31, 2017, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Monarch man
DYKWIA, you may believe it's purely down to Ramadan, but the reality is there is significant over capacity on many of the 380 routes including MAN and this is a tactical measure. Behind the scenes as I've said previously thanks to direct inside information, EK are desperately short of flightcrew, so much so that they are moving Airbus pilots onto the 777.
Now I realise a few on here have belittled my posts as agenda or hysteria driven or worse, but believe or not, from a purely manpower and capacity perspective EK is in deep deep trouble...expect more capacity reductions and route consolidation.
While I wouldn't disagree that manpower is an issue at Emirates, I would be careful referencing 'direct inside information'. I tend to find that those who hype the manpower shortage are those on the Boeing fleet. To give a little perspective on why that might be the case, from the introduction of the 777s to the point just before the A330/340 fleet was retired, the 777 filled mostly medium/long-haul sectors. Now the fleet fills all the short-haul with fewer and fewer medium/long-haul sectors. As a consequence, the pilots on the 777 fleet are now flying more frequently, but the actual hours flown per Boeing pilot would have only increased 10-15 hours per month, due to the short-haul nature of the fleet changing the rostering practices. Consequently the 777 fleet largely feels that there's a manpower shortage simply because flying more frequently.

Obviously if manpower was the primary reason for all these cutbacks, the cutbacks wouldn't be for the period of May and June, but rather would be extended to the rest of the year. What is likely happening is some smart capacity management to cut back on routes with less than favourable forward bookings to help save some costs, and push up margins on the remaining network.
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Old Mar 31, 2017, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus
While I wouldn't disagree that manpower is an issue at Emirates, I would be careful referencing 'direct inside information'. I tend to find that those who hype the manpower shortage are those on the Boeing fleet. To give a little perspective on why that might be the case, from the introduction of the 777s to the point just before the A330/340 fleet was retired, the 777 filled mostly medium/long-haul sectors. Now the fleet fills all the short-haul with fewer and fewer medium/long-haul sectors. As a consequence, the pilots on the 777 fleet are now flying more frequently, but the actual hours flown per Boeing pilot would have only increased 10-15 hours per month, due to the short-haul nature of the fleet changing the rostering practices. Consequently the 777 fleet largely feels that there's a manpower shortage simply because flying more frequently.

Obviously if manpower was the primary reason for all these cutbacks, the cutbacks wouldn't be for the period of May and June, but rather would be extended to the rest of the year. What is likely happening is some smart capacity management to cut back on routes with less than favourable forward bookings to help save some costs, and push up margins on the remaining network.
Not sure about all those arguments, as far as I've always known (my source being an Airbus guy though) EK pilots always fly near the limit of their monthly total permitted hours as EK tries to prevent paying overtime, so most pilots fly in the region of 90 hours, possibly in a range of 85-95?

However, I do also think these cutbacks are more due to the overall fiscal weakness of EK at the moment, otherwise how would replacing A380 routes with 777s be reducing workload on Boeing crews?
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Old Mar 31, 2017, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
Not sure about all those arguments, as far as I've always known (my source being an Airbus guy though) EK pilots always fly near the limit of their monthly total permitted hours as EK tries to prevent paying overtime, so most pilots fly in the region of 90 hours, possibly in a range of 85-95?
It will usually be a bit less for A380 pilots, but those estimates wouldn't be far off for the Boeing side of things. Also worth mentioning that when the A330/340 was still around, those pilots were flying extremely condensed rosters, possibly only flying 70 hours a month, but with only 9 or 10 days off per month. This was because of the A330/340 flying all the short-haul routes. Once again, I would agree that a labour shortage is contributing to the cutbacks, but I wouldn't say it's the primary reason behind the cutbacks.

However, I do also think these cutbacks are more due to the overall fiscal weakness of EK at the moment, otherwise how would replacing A380 routes with 777s be reducing workload on Boeing crews?
Exactly.
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 1:16 am
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New second flight to DPS:

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...ali-indonesia#
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Old Apr 5, 2017, 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by ZRHMD11
EK 360 DXB-DPS 01:25-14:30
EK 361 DPS-DXB 16:30-21:30

That's a very civilized return time
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Old Apr 6, 2017, 10:38 pm
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Airlineroute is reporting that EK have removed the "subject to government approval" caveat from the third daily NBO flight that was blocked by Kenyan authorities. No official word from the Kenya Ministry of Transport.

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Old Apr 7, 2017, 11:35 am
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So it is approved or not?
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Old Apr 8, 2017, 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by EK77W
So it is approved or not?
it is approved
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Old Apr 19, 2017, 4:02 pm
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BHX permanently down to 2 daily from 1st September. It's getting bad when they are cancelling UK routes
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 4:23 am
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Which one will be cancelled??

EK37/38, EK39/40 or EK41/42?
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by zrhmd11
which one will be cancelled??

Ek37/38, ek39/40 or ek41/42?
ek41 & ek42.
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 6:02 am
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Thank`s....I didn`t know that!
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Old Apr 20, 2017, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA
BHX permanently down to 2 daily from 1st September. It's getting bad when they are cancelling UK routes
I don't know why they put 41/42 on in the first place to be fair, adds no incentives for connections it is literally a middle of the night departure from DXB to BHX or an early evening arrival into DXB from BHX.
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