Fare Class Letters
Nov 28, 2016 | 12:07 pm
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Fare Class Letters
I'm close to buying a couple of flights through a Travel Agent to use up some vouchers, but I want specific fare types to allow upgrades on a couple of sectors, and also for the points.
I have some notes from a while back, but does anyone have an up to date list of what fare codes go into Special, Saver, Flex and Flex Plus categories? Or what ones are variable?
I have some notes from a while back, but does anyone have an up to date list of what fare codes go into Special, Saver, Flex and Flex Plus categories? Or what ones are variable?
Nov 28, 2016 | 12:09 pm
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I'm close to buying a couple of flights through a Travel Agent to use up some vouchers, but I want specific fare types to allow upgrades on a couple of sectors, and also for the points.
I have some notes from a while back, but does anyone have an up to date list of what fare codes go into Special, Saver, Flex and Flex Plus categories? Or what ones are variable?
I have some notes from a while back, but does anyone have an up to date list of what fare codes go into Special, Saver, Flex and Flex Plus categories? Or what ones are variable?
Nov 28, 2016 | 12:17 pm
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I've detailed the fare classes I want, but I'm not sure they fully understand. In fact, I'm pretty sure they don't given the prices/classes they have come back with.
One has came back with class letters, hence my query.
One has came back with class letters, hence my query.
Nov 28, 2016 | 2:01 pm
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F flex+
S flex
P saver
R special
Nov 28, 2016 | 2:27 pm
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Thanks, but how do the individual fare buckets fit into these groups? I previously read Y, E and R are Flex Plus but looking for confimation of this and how the other letters are allocated. The TA either can't or won't give me the fare construction to work it out as you describe, but can give me the class letter.
Nov 28, 2016 | 3:11 pm
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Thanks, but how do the individual fare buckets fit into these groups? I previously read Y, E and R are Flex Plus but looking for confimation of this and how the other letters are allocated. The TA either can't or won't give me the fare construction to work it out as you describe, but can give me the class letter.
Someone like eternaltransit will know
Nov 28, 2016 | 3:50 pm
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Nov 28, 2016 | 5:38 pm
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Where else would I be, but in transit
kuroko is the fares expert, and unfortunately the only definitive indicator of EK fare group is the 4th letter from the right as he says.
In general you find that:
Flex Plus: (first) F (business) J (economy) Y, E, R
Flex: (first) A (business) C, I (economy) W, M, B
Saver: (business) O (economy) Q, L, T
Special: (economy) L, T, V, X
kuroko is the fares expert, and unfortunately the only definitive indicator of EK fare group is the 4th letter from the right as he says.
In general you find that:
Flex Plus: (first) F (business) J (economy) Y, E, R
Flex: (first) A (business) C, I (economy) W, M, B
Saver: (business) O (economy) Q, L, T
Special: (economy) L, T, V, X
Nov 28, 2016 | 10:41 pm
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What's the routing? It really comes down do that (for example ex DXB to India, X is a Saver, for most other routings X is a special)
Nov 29, 2016 | 1:21 am
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The routing which I've got real doubts about (which you all seem to have confirmed) is GLA-BKK(stopover)-AKL(stopover)-BKK(stopover)-GLA. I'm requesting a Flex and pretty sure I've been offered a Saver.
They say it's a "T" fare, so it may even be a Special, which is worrying.
kuroko is also worrying me by adding "O" to be potentially a Business Class Special. I've got that quoted for a couple of GLA-BKK returns and was assuming it was a Saver Fare. Any idea what "O" would be on this route?
They say it's a "T" fare, so it may even be a Special, which is worrying.
kuroko is also worrying me by adding "O" to be potentially a Business Class Special. I've got that quoted for a couple of GLA-BKK returns and was assuming it was a Saver Fare. Any idea what "O" would be on this route?
Nov 29, 2016 | 1:27 am
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On a completely different tactic, have you asked for the fare rules? These will tell you which fare type it is, especially by looking at change, cancellation and upgrade restrictions, if not even explicitly stated.
Have you tried searching the itinerary on ITA Matrix to view the fare rules and possibly try to force the Flex fare on the route and dates you need and send the fare construction info to the TA to replicate?
Have you tried searching the itinerary on ITA Matrix to view the fare rules and possibly try to force the Flex fare on the route and dates you need and send the fare construction info to the TA to replicate?
Nov 29, 2016 | 1:51 am
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Unfortunately, the TAs are saying they either won't or can't give me the full fare construction. I haven't asked for Fare Rules as the TAs have given me their own change/cancellation charges, which aren't the same as any on EK's website so I can't narrow it down through that.
ITA matrix isn't helping too much as the TA mark up means I can't cross reference to an ITA price with a 100% guarantee I'm right.
There are some patterns to their pricing which help, but I'm looking for more certainty.
They won't entertain me giving them the fare basis to replicate.
ITA matrix isn't helping too much as the TA mark up means I can't cross reference to an ITA price with a 100% guarantee I'm right.
There are some patterns to their pricing which help, but I'm looking for more certainty.
They won't entertain me giving them the fare basis to replicate.
Nov 29, 2016 | 1:53 am
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