A few questions.
#17
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 123
But why isn't there Platinum for us? It is such a demented rule! They really need to revise the Skysurfers programme now. Besides, what was the need to create a whole new one for teenagers anyways? It is just irritating as we are not allowed to get op-ups, we don't get the same treatment, we are still considered children, etc.
Just a nuisance for everyone.
Just a nuisance for everyone.
And if the full adult price is charged then I agree that the child should be entitled to full skywards benefits.
I wasn't aware that there had been any changes - can anyone post the link please?
#18
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: UK, US, UAE
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Plat(Soon to be gold), HHonors Silver, Amex Gold
Posts: 185
Northumberland, the Skysurfers program is 18+.
Legal adult for most of the world.
No platinum for the very reason someone stated - its purely not worth the effort. Why introduce it when I imagine there will be only a handful of travelers whom will attain this status and we know it was only introduced to skywards after the QF/EK pair up. How long that will have remained though will of been interesting to know.
My my you do fly an awful lot - do you go to school??
Legal adult for most of the world.
No platinum for the very reason someone stated - its purely not worth the effort. Why introduce it when I imagine there will be only a handful of travelers whom will attain this status and we know it was only introduced to skywards after the QF/EK pair up. How long that will have remained though will of been interesting to know.
My my you do fly an awful lot - do you go to school??
#19
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Durban, South Africa | LHR
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Northumberland, the Skysurfers program is 18+.
Legal adult for most of the world.
No platinum for the very reason someone stated - its purely not worth the effort. Why introduce it when I imagine there will be only a handful of travelers whom will attain this status and we know it was only introduced to skywards after the QF/EK pair up. How long that will have remained though will of been interesting to know.
My my you do fly an awful lot - do you go to school??
Legal adult for most of the world.
No platinum for the very reason someone stated - its purely not worth the effort. Why introduce it when I imagine there will be only a handful of travelers whom will attain this status and we know it was only introduced to skywards after the QF/EK pair up. How long that will have remained though will of been interesting to know.
My my you do fly an awful lot - do you go to school??
The other poster brought up an interesting fact though - we pay adult fares but are treated as children. That is quite an annoying thing about airlines...
Yes, I do go to school. And, on top of that, I make the top 10 students academically in the province (about 10 000 000 people). I also came 16th in the Biology world Olympiad. I only fly in the holidays and try my best not to miss school for travel.
I just earn alot as I fly from DUR-DXB for everything - a very long flight itself - and onto LHR about 10 times a year.
I also go to JFK quite often so that boosts it up considerably. I really enjoy travelling (mostly flights though). Besides, who travels for the the destination anyways?
So I guess I have to wait until 18 just to enjoy the benefits of something we've already invested so much in.
#21
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 123
I'm afraid I have to agree with Ahmed on this one - from the age of 12 you pay adult fare - surely then you are entitled to be treated as an adult, however that doesn't happen. So EK need to either stop charging adult fares for over 12's and keep skywards as it is, or allow 'young adults' (pains me to as that with a nearly 12 yr old) to be treated as the FULL FARE PAYING passengers that they are,
Seems EK I are ting to have it both ways!
Seems EK I are ting to have it both ways!
#22
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: UK, US, UAE
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So if it is not worth the fort for them, why do we, even though there are a few only, make the effort to fly Emirates as much as possible? If they couldn't be bothered then why are we?
The other poster brought up an interesting fact though - we pay adult fares but are treated as children. That is quite an annoying thing about airlines...
Yes, I do go to school. And, on top of that, I make the top 10 students academically in the province (about 10 000 000 people). I also came 16th in the Biology world Olympiad. I only fly in the holidays and try my best not to miss school for travel.
I just earn alot as I fly from DUR-DXB for everything - a very long flight itself - and onto LHR about 10 times a year.
I also go to JFK quite often so that boosts it up considerably. I really enjoy travelling (mostly flights though). Besides, who travels for the the destination anyways?
So I guess I have to wait until 18 just to enjoy the benefits of something we've already invested so much in.
The other poster brought up an interesting fact though - we pay adult fares but are treated as children. That is quite an annoying thing about airlines...
Yes, I do go to school. And, on top of that, I make the top 10 students academically in the province (about 10 000 000 people). I also came 16th in the Biology world Olympiad. I only fly in the holidays and try my best not to miss school for travel.
I just earn alot as I fly from DUR-DXB for everything - a very long flight itself - and onto LHR about 10 times a year.
I also go to JFK quite often so that boosts it up considerably. I really enjoy travelling (mostly flights though). Besides, who travels for the the destination anyways?
So I guess I have to wait until 18 just to enjoy the benefits of something we've already invested so much in.
Ahmed - Because financially it does not make sense. There will be simply not enough of the Plat Skysurfer travelers.
Yes you do pay adult fares - however untill the age of 13 if you're traveling on ID tix and you're parents are entitled to J or F travel, you are not because of age.
Listen - I see where you're coming from with your point, however - you are still LEGALLY not an adult by statute of law. You cannot vote, you cannot be held responsible in a court for crimes committed by an adult, you are not able to buy alcohol etc etc.
There is a disparity between adults in maturity and age and adults in terms of being charged and its not just airlines - hotels do the same thing.
Enjoy the privileged position you are in clearly for the time being. Most adults will tell you to enjoy your childhood, take it as it comes. Don't wish to be an adult if you're not because there is plenty more responsibility that comes with it. I apologise if this sounds slightly patronising but its true, enjoy being a kid.
Besides - I'm sure all these tickets are not coming from your work and grime, I imagine your parents are paying for the tickets.
When I mentioned regarding the school - clearly you're far more intelligent than I am and far more talented than I am, take the question for what it was - a question, no need to get defensive.
Good for you that you get to travel so often and up the front, as a kid I was able to travel up the front.
I travel for both though, the enjoyment of the journey like in the old days of aviation but also where I'm going to!
Once you're an adult you can do virtually what you want - but until that point
you're still not an adult legally and that takes precedent.
On a side note - Havoc is right, I don't know you and you may travel in J because of upgrades etc, but speaking from my own experience, you appreciate J a lot more when you've had to travel by Y. So as he put it, it wont kill ya
I'm afraid I have to agree with Ahmed on this one - from the age of 12 you pay adult fare - surely then you are entitled to be treated as an adult, however that doesn't happen. So EK need to either stop charging adult fares for over 12's and keep skywards as it is, or allow 'young adults' (pains me to as that with a nearly 12 yr old) to be treated as the FULL FARE PAYING passengers that they are,
Seems EK I are ting to have it both ways!
Seems EK I are ting to have it both ways!
Besides, I'm sure you're well aware that some 12 year olds are bigger than some adults.
There may be FF programs out there that afford children the same benefits as adults before they're 18 but I imagine they are few and far between.
#23
Join Date: Jun 2012
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A few questions.
In the long run its better for your development. You will end up a badly adjusted kid with an entitlement complex. You should rough it and feel hard done by. You will thank EK later!
#24
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Ahmed - Because financially it does not make sense. There will be simply not enough of the Plat Skysurfer travelers.
Yes you do pay adult fares - however untill the age of 13 if you're traveling on ID tix and you're parents are entitled to J or F travel, you are not because of age.
Listen - I see where you're coming from with your point, however - you are still LEGALLY not an adult by statute of law. You cannot vote, you cannot be held responsible in a court for crimes committed by an adult, you are not able to buy alcohol etc etc.
There is a disparity between adults in maturity and age and adults in terms of being charged and its not just airlines - hotels do the same thing.
Enjoy the privileged position you are in clearly for the time being. Most adults will tell you to enjoy your childhood, take it as it comes. Don't wish to be an adult if you're not because there is plenty more responsibility that comes with it. I apologise if this sounds slightly patronising but its true, enjoy being a kid.
Besides - I'm sure all these tickets are not coming from your work and grime, I imagine your parents are paying for the tickets.
When I mentioned regarding the school - clearly you're far more intelligent than I am and far more talented than I am, take the question for what it was - a question, no need to get defensive.
Good for you that you get to travel so often and up the front, as a kid I was able to travel up the front.
I travel for both though, the enjoyment of the journey like in the old days of aviation but also where I'm going to!
Once you're an adult you can do virtually what you want - but until that point
you're still not an adult legally and that takes precedent.
On a side note - Havoc is right, I don't know you and you may travel in J because of upgrades etc, but speaking from my own experience, you appreciate J a lot more when you've had to travel by Y. So as he put it, it wont kill ya
M'lady, EK is no different to I'd say the vast majority of airlines worldwide. I'm not defending EK here, you have more chance of finding a golden needle in a haystack than me defending EK as a corporation. However this is policy worldwide for most airlines, hotels are no different!
Besides, I'm sure you're well aware that some 12 year olds are bigger than some adults.
There may be FF programs out there that afford children the same benefits as adults before they're 18 but I imagine they are few and far between.
Also, as I mentioned before, I fund my travel myself. I earn the money and I use it - I do know and understand the value of it.
On another note, I called again and got told "sorry, we have no available sets at the moment. Please keep trying and hopefully something will open up." In their defence, the guy was really friendly and helpful, it's just the airline that is putting profits over customer satisfaction...
Last edited by Ahmed777; Nov 16, 2013 at 6:16 am Reason: Spelling errors.
#25
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West Coast, USA
Programs: Skywards Platinum
Posts: 3,747
Sorry, I forgot to add another question:
6) I am travelling with my grandparents on this trip. They both do not travel regularly so it would be silly to create a Skywards account for them. Is it possible that me, a SkySurfers member, could earn their miles? Even if it is that 20% shenanigan, it is better than nothing at all! So it would equate to 40% bonus miles for me!
Is this do-able?
6) I am travelling with my grandparents on this trip. They both do not travel regularly so it would be silly to create a Skywards account for them. Is it possible that me, a SkySurfers member, could earn their miles? Even if it is that 20% shenanigan, it is better than nothing at all! So it would equate to 40% bonus miles for me!
Is this do-able?
#26
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Location: Durban, South Africa | LHR
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No, but I used my stepfathers account and referred them so he can get the miles. He only has 14000 so it would be good for him to get those.^
#28
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: United Kingdom
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Come on. Give the poor kid a break. They shouldn't have 'gifted' it to him in the first place. Moreover they have started collecting them before landing as well.
#29
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She told me to keep them - so I did. they broke on one of my flights in September, cheap things I reckon! Or just Karma...
#30
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