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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 3:38 am
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Hi,
I am a Gl with matmid and I am looking for a quick way to earn Pl status. Does anyone have an idea if Elal has any promotions to earn the status quickly?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by flyingjeff
Hi,
I am a Gl with matmid and I am looking for a quick way to earn Pl status. Does anyone have an idea if Elal has any promotions to earn the status quickly?

1) How many points do you have as GL at the moment?
2) What routes do you fly mainly?
3) What frequency do you use these routes?
4) What class + ticket type do you normally purchase? (e.g Economy 'S') etc.
5) When is you rolling 12 months up? (i.e. When did you start accumulating the bulk of your current mileage balance)

Once i have these answers i can tell you the cheapest / quickest way to PL.

Finally flyingjeff Welcome to FT! ^
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by jonnye
1) How many points do you have as GL at the moment?
2) What routes do you fly mainly?
3) What frequency do you use these routes?
4) What class + ticket type do you normally purchase? (e.g Economy 'S') etc.
5) When is you rolling 12 months up? (i.e. When did you start accumulating the bulk of your current mileage balance)

Once i have these answers i can tell you the cheapest / quickest way to PL.

Finally flyingjeff Welcome to FT! ^
I fly Jfk/Ewr to TLV and back
My year is from the end of Feb.
I fly about 5-7 times a year in I class and upgrade to A
Thanks for your help
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 3:41 am
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Originally Posted by flyingjeff
I fly Jfk/Ewr to TLV and back
My year is from the end of Feb.
I fly about 5-7 times a year in I class and upgrade to A
Thanks for your help
Ok, in answer to the original question about fast-track to PL... i'm afraid it's a NO. The reason is because whenever LY do have mileage promotions they are 'basic points' which mean they don't count towards status.

One way round your problem would be to do some mileage runs in the US on AA Domestic in FIRST as you can earn the following points which i think are considered 'Standard Points' and would enable you to hit the 5,000 mark at a much cheaper price.

0-500 miles (One-Way)
20 points
30 points
40 points

501-1500
30 points
45 points
60 points

1501-2500
40 points
60 points
80 points



If I'm wrong / misinformed, could someone else in the forum clarify.


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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by jonnye

If I'm wrong / misinformed, could someone else in the forum clarify.
Hey Jonnye,

It's just the opposite. LY calls "basic points" the ones that you get from flying LY metal - and you can ONLY get them from flying LY metal, not from promotions (as you correctly stated) and not from other airline partners. Both of the later kind of points are always called "partner points" and never count for PL/GL status.

Remains to be seen what they'll do with the new AA codeshares. AA DOES give "elite qualifying miles" for its codeshares on other airlines' metal, as long as the ticket has the AA code. This is pretty much industry standard. You can pretty much count on LY screwing this up. Just watch. (I will be pleasantly surprised to be wrong. Actually, shocked - but happily shocked).
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 12:28 pm
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Hey Jonnye,

It's just the opposite. LY calls "basic points" the ones that you get from flying LY metal - and you can ONLY get them from flying LY metal, not from promotions (as you correctly stated) and not from other airline partners. Both of the later kind of points are always called "partner points" and never count for PL/GL status.

Remains to be seen what they'll do with the new AA codeshares. AA DOES give "elite qualifying miles" for its codeshares on other airlines' metal, as long as the ticket has the AA code. This is pretty much industry standard. You can pretty much count on LY screwing this up. Just watch. (I will be pleasantly surprised to be wrong. Actually, shocked - but happily shocked).
Thanks for the clarification LatusElAl, i always get mixed up with their 'Basic Points' / 'Partner Points' jargon!!!
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by LatusElAl
LY calls "basic points" the ones that you get from flying LY metal - and you can ONLY get them from flying LY metal, not from promotions (as you correctly stated) and not from other airline partners.
It's not quite LY 'metal', more LY TICKETS and FLIGHT NUMBERS. If you fly on an LY ticket with an LY flight number, it may be flown on an other airline's aircraft (their 'metal') and earn LY basic points'.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by mikebg
It's not quite LY 'metal', more LY TICKETS and FLIGHT NUMBERS. If you fly on an LY ticket with an LY flight number, it may be flown on an other airline's aircraft (their 'metal') and earn LY basic points'.
Are you sure, mikebg? I did one of these a couple of years ago and it came in a partner, not basic.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by LatusElAl
Are you sure, mikebg? I did one of these a couple of years ago and it came in a partner, not basic.
Absolutely sure. Here is the proof from my Frequent Flyer PL Account statement:

03/02/2008 Flight NML LY8331 D Tel Aviv Yafo - Brussels Basic 200
03/02/2008 Point Platinum Tier Promotion on Flt 8331 Extra 100
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 2:24 pm
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I stand corrected.
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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 4:14 pm
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metal or LY code

Originally Posted by mikebg
Absolutely sure. Here is the proof from my Frequent Flyer PL Account statement:

03/02/2008 Flight NML LY8331 D Tel Aviv Yafo - Brussels Basic 200
03/02/2008 Point Platinum Tier Promotion on Flt 8331 Extra 100

Mike you are correct,

but you earn less BASE point on LY code flight in partner metal, than on LY metal for the same leg same class.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by riman
Mike you are correct,

but you earn less BASE point on LY code flight in partner metal, than on LY metal for the same leg same class.
No you do not. LY to Europe (including Brussels) in D class gives 200 BASE points whether flown on LY metal or SN metal. Look at the quote I gave from my statement again.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 8:42 am
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If you fly LY flight number (Like LY8331 for example) you get points even on IB or SN or so on exactly like it would have been LY plane. Basic Points + Extra.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by ysmisc
If you fly LY flight number (Like LY8331 for example) you get points even on IB or SN or so on exactly like it would have been LY plane. Basic Points + Extra.
There seems to be some kind of discrepancy here as "LY Rep" whom I assume is "official" just said the opposite: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...3&postcount=62

Yet, mikebg just showed us otherwise from a statement of his.

Which is correct?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 1:37 pm
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I think that what "LYRep" meant was that if LY have an agreement with another airline then if you fly with that airline (not as an LY ticket and flight number) then you will earn LY points, but these are 'extra points'. I remember doing that years ago, I think with AA from London to New York. However, flying with an LY flight number and ticket on other metal will earn the same basic points as on LY metal.
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