EL AL 787 Master Thread
Jan 2, 2018, 6:36 am
#226
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Jan 2, 2018, 7:06 am
#227
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All things 787
is showing 5 deliveries in 2018 for LY, all 787-9
and further, that one is currently being assembled and another has "parts arriving" so presumably both will be delivered in the next quarter.
is showing 5 deliveries in 2018 for LY, all 787-9
and further, that one is currently being assembled and another has "parts arriving" so presumably both will be delivered in the next quarter.
Jan 2, 2018, 9:31 am
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Wow. No doesn't bode well at all. How narrow are they? How do they compared to the competition in that regard?
Jan 2, 2018, 9:40 am
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All who spoke said the old United lie-flat (from CO) and the old LY seat (before they adjusted the 777 seat to go fully flat) was much wider. "Much" is pretty bad considering this is the new seat.
One said the C is designed very much like the new UA seats but considering the cabin is narrower, you lose measurable space.
Jan 2, 2018, 2:09 pm
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Jan 3, 2018, 1:31 am
#231
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All things 787
is showing 5 deliveries in 2018 for LY, all 787-9
and further, that one is currently being assembled and another has "parts arriving" so presumably both will be delivered in the next quarter.
is showing 5 deliveries in 2018 for LY, all 787-9
and further, that one is currently being assembled and another has "parts arriving" so presumably both will be delivered in the next quarter.
Jan 8, 2018, 11:53 pm
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This just in.....LY considering a revamp to the 787 hard product
Apparently the negative feedback from premium frequent fliers has been so negative that LY has set revamp meetings with Recaro and Boeing regarding a revamp for the 787 cabin, specifically the business class seats and the coach layout. The 2 birds in service won't be touched for now and neither will the 2 scheduled for delivery shortly as they don't want to delay them. But there is a better than decent chance that the business seat and cabin on the balance of the 12 aircraft will be different than what we see right now.
Glad they are - apparently - doing something about this....but leave it to LY to screw up a brand new product.
Glad they are - apparently - doing something about this....but leave it to LY to screw up a brand new product.
Jan 31, 2018, 12:17 pm
#235
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- I sat in Premium Economy. Its pretty much comparable to what the American carriers call F on their domestic routes. Seat is wider. Reclines a bit farther. There is a leg rest but it doesn't really do the trick. The meal service is a notch below what LY do in 777 C (menu, non-paper dishes, choice of 3 entrees, wine selection). With all that was unimpressed that the wine they did serve was poured into plastic cups - of all the places to go cheap. The FA attention was similar to economy (nobody home) as opposed to business (jump at every beck and call). Good blanket (same as the 777 C blanket from Hollandia).
For example, this site lists the widths of the top 10 Premium Economy seats as well as legroom:
https://www.luxurytraveldiary.com/20...irlines-world/
Elal has hidden the width of the seat and only indicates legroom (38") and 7" recline:
https://www.elal.com/en/PassengersIn...m-Economy.aspx
What is the width of the seat? 19"? 21" or less?
Any other reviews of Premium Economy?
Feb 3, 2018, 7:19 am
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Feb 5, 2018, 6:36 am
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Feb 5, 2018, 12:10 pm
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@Innocent Abroad
Not really
1. check out the Boeing - Paine Airport Twitter photos. You'll see an AC and QF aircraft with tail-only paint
https://twitter.com/mattcawby?lang=en
2. I posted this video upthread back in August. You can see how the tail on this LY aircraft is painted ahead of assembly.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28723994-post136.html
Not really
1. check out the Boeing - Paine Airport Twitter photos. You'll see an AC and QF aircraft with tail-only paint
https://twitter.com/mattcawby?lang=en
2. I posted this video upthread back in August. You can see how the tail on this LY aircraft is painted ahead of assembly.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28723994-post136.html