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Originally Posted by LatusElAl
(Post 29010046)
Had my first experience with the LY 789 and here are my impressions:
- Cramped. No other way to put it. The whole ac just felt cramped. Tight aisles and spaces. Just cramped, almost claustrophobic. - The closets for hanging stuff in the front are short....typical garment bag won't hang straight. - Bathrooms actually slightly wider/bigger than the 777. Also liked the sensor flush and faucet - less germy stuff to touch. - IFE - finally a decent and industry standard offering from LY. Yes, you can binge watch an entire season of The Good Wife or House of Cards. - I sat in Premium Economy. Its pretty much comparable to what the American carriers call F on their domestic routes. Seat is wider. Reclines a bit farther. There is a leg rest but it doesn't really do the trick. The meal service is a notch below what LY do in 777 C (menu, non-paper dishes, choice of 3 entrees, wine selection). With all that was unimpressed that the wine they did serve was poured into plastic cups - of all the places to go cheap. The FA attention was similar to economy (nobody home) as opposed to business (jump at every beck and call). Good blanket (same as the 777 C blanket from Hollandia). - Took a walk into C - looks just like US and DL. I know there is lots of personal space and privacy, but the overall cabin feel is just cramped, cramped, cramped. Ugh. I hear lots of LY FF's have been complaining that the C seat is too tight. Are LY flyers fatter than most? - Also took a walk down to Y - whoever it was that said "they took the meat off the bone" hit the nail on the head. Pax packed in like sardines. Really narrow aisles with 9 across. I don't know.....I was expecting more from this plane. A bit disappointed. But I suppose can't blame LY for this one. Its the industry. As for Y Boeing had suggested an 8 across config , everyone I know of went with 9 across. Heck UA is going 3-4-3 on all its 777s as are many others. So LY I would assume is no worse then the others, maybe you or others were expecting a luxury config, yet the Airlines are going in the opposite direction, except for maybe the Biz cabin Persoanlly due to UAs 3-4-3 I wont fly the 90/91 combo and the 772s (CO metal) will start going in to be redone so once they start in with 3-4-3 thats the end of my flying UA. On my 11/7 return to EWR Im staying in SFO (connecting) an extra hour to avoid a 3-4-3 Y cabin |
Originally Posted by ly787
(Post 29033188)
I actually think it was presented by Airbus for a 340/330 deal
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My cousins returned from the USA to Israel this week on the new 787 in business class and told me how disappointed they were with it. For all they hype, they found it extremely cramped (and they are not particularly tall or wide people either). They felt it was another missed opportunity for EL AL ...
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Originally Posted by mikebg
(Post 29084277)
My cousins returned from the USA to Israel this week on the new 787 and told me how disappointed they were with it. For all they hype, they found it extremely cramped (and they are not particularly tall or wide people either). They felt it was another missed opportunity for EL AL ...
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Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 29084344)
Do you know what cabin they were in?
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LY couldn't do better than this 1-2-1 config
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Originally Posted by LY777
(Post 29086469)
LY couldn't do better than this 1-2-1 config
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Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 29089757)
yeah its basically the same as Continental's Polaris.
Also passenger to bathroom ratio is horrendous. 1 bathroom in front, for 32 passengers, plus 4 pilots/first officers crew. There are two more bathrooms behind the first class cabin shared with the economy plus section (24 more seats), and more crew. On the overnight flights I'd suggest waking up extra early to get in, the wait can be an hour.http://www.carlousmoochous.com/wp-co...let-Ratios.png There's more, always is with LY. Paraphrasing Abba Eban - never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. |
Well, I have now traveled in all 3 classes of LY's 787
Business: Lots of privacy (except if your solo on the odd-row middle - then its not private at all, but worse than the 777/747) but extremely cramped. Its almost like lying in an MRI for 10 hours. Premium Economy: Comparable to BA, but IMHO not worth the price above regular coach if you also want to get full status points for the flight. Slightly more legroom than Y, maybe 1/2 inch wider in the seat. My personal beef: serving fine wine in plastic cups is cheap and a stupid way to differentiate between P and C. Economy: Tighter than the other aircraft. Nowhere to move. Sitting in the aisle is a downright hazard with FA's and carts bumping into you all the time. General: The only thing good about this AC is the entertainment system - but don't worry - LY probably won't update the content for about 3 years, so this too will suck soon. No wifi. Excuses, excuses. Everybody has wifi these days. Its a brand new ac. Where is the wifi? Bottom line: LY's "Dreamliner" is a HUGE disappointment. Much rather fly the 777 - just upgrade the VOD. |
Originally Posted by LatusElAl
(Post 29159220)
Well, I have now traveled in all 3 classes of LY's 787
Business: Lots of privacy (except if your solo on the odd-row middle - then its not private at all, but worse than the 777/747) but extremely cramped. Its almost like lying in an MRI for 10 hours. Premium Economy: Comparable to BA, but IMHO not worth the price above regular coach if you also want to get full status points for the flight. Slightly more legroom than Y, maybe 1/2 inch wider in the seat. My personal beef: serving fine wine in plastic cups is cheap and a stupid way to differentiate between P and C. Economy: Tighter than the other aircraft. Nowhere to move. Sitting in the aisle is a downright hazard with FA's and carts bumping into you all the time. General: The only thing good about this AC is the entertainment system - but don't worry - LY probably won't update the content for about 3 years, so this too will suck soon. No wifi. Excuses, excuses. Everybody has wifi these days. Its a brand new ac. Where is the wifi? Bottom line: LY's "Dreamliner" is a HUGE disappointment. Much rather fly the 777 - just upgrade the VOD. |
Originally Posted by LatusElAl
(Post 29159220)
Premium Economy:
Comparable to BA, but IMHO not worth the price above regular coach if you also want to get full status points for the flight. Slightly more legroom than Y, maybe 1/2 inch wider in the seat. My personal beef: serving fine wine in plastic cups is cheap and a stupid way to differentiate between P and C.
Originally Posted by LatusElAl
(Post 29159220)
Economy:
Tighter than the other aircraft. Nowhere to move
Originally Posted by LatusElAl
(Post 29159220)
Bottom line: LY's "Dreamliner" is a HUGE disappointment. Much rather fly the 777 - just upgrade the VOD
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Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 29176129)
Assume you mean just in Y...?
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So you prefer LY's old and dated biz product over the new one? Ouch...
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How many 787 are in LY fleet today? Is there a delivery timeline which one can follow/see?
Thank you |
Originally Posted by ysmisc
(Post 29236017)
How many 787 are in LY fleet today? Is there a delivery timeline which one can follow/see?
Thank you I'm wondering how the engine issues are going to effect their schedule though. |
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