Hundreds of El Al passengers spent 7 hours on tarmac in U.S.
Dec 29, 2009, 6:04 am
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Hundreds of El Al passengers spent 7 hours on tarmac in U.S.
Dec 29, 2009, 6:37 am
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disgusting 
According to this article, does this mean ELAL will now be fined $11,000,000
US limits tarmac wait to 3 hrs
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/bu...=TARMAC&st=cse
"Airlines that let a plane sit on the tarmac for more than two hours without giving passengers food or water, or more than three hours without offering them the option of getting off, will face fines of $27,500 a passenger, the Secretary of Transportation announced on Monday."
According to this article, does this mean ELAL will now be fined $11,000,000
US limits tarmac wait to 3 hrs
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/22/bu...=TARMAC&st=cse
"Airlines that let a plane sit on the tarmac for more than two hours without giving passengers food or water, or more than three hours without offering them the option of getting off, will face fines of $27,500 a passenger, the Secretary of Transportation announced on Monday."
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Dec 29, 2009, 7:22 am
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Dec 29, 2009, 7:35 am
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Dec 29, 2009, 8:03 am
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Dec 29, 2009, 8:05 am
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I don't believe El Al could have unloaded the passengers.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Dec 29, 2009, 8:21 am
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I don't believe El Al could have unloaded the passengers.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Dec 29, 2009, 8:22 am
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Well it seems very common at JFK reading this BA thread you hear of BA passengers stuck for 7.5 hours and continental stuck for 9 hours, in this thread you of hear of passengers stuck for 11 hours only 10 days ago!
Note to Self: Stay away from people who post such erotic posts, I assume ELAL will be glad for you to stay away.
Note to Self: Stay away from people who post such erotic posts, I assume ELAL will be glad for you to stay away.
Dec 29, 2009, 8:26 am
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Well it seems very common at JFK reading this BA thread you hear of BA passengers stuck for 7.5 hours and continental stuck for 9 hours, in this thread you of hear of passengers stuck for 11 hours only 10 days ago!
Note to Self: Stay away from people who post such erotic posts, I assume ELAL will be glad for you to stay away.
Note to Self: Stay away from people who post such erotic posts, I assume ELAL will be glad for you to stay away.
And are you offended that I still stay away from El Al?
Dec 29, 2009, 8:35 am
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I don't believe El Al could have unloaded the passengers.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Per US laws, once you have boarded the plane to an international flight you have departed the USA and the I-94 slips have been taken away from you. Knowing EWR terminal B (like most other terminals in the USA), once you are off the plane in the terminal building, there is no way to prevent a passenger from getting out and staying in the USA without registration. Deplaning would mean going through immigration and that would be a long process.
Also, there is a question of legality of the crew hours once the cabin door opens.
In all, when the question is whether to stay on the plane for 5 hours or stay in the USA for another 24 hours, I guess most would take the 5 hour delay.
Now maybe one Israeli in a crowd (I thought about staying in the US, as I officially left but had to go to Japan) is not that harmful, but a plane full of Israelis is a bit too much. But of course, if they allowed UA to do so, then they should have allowed LY to do so, otherwise, they are racists, and use profiling...
