Brewing Coffee At Home
#17
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Sweet Maria's
Then you need a roaster in the garage, a burr grinder in the kitchen, and an Italian espresso machine on the counter.
Mr. lili paid his dues with Mr. Coffee, Chemex, Krups, Starbucks Barista, and now Rancilio Silvia. I think the cost per cup is twice that of Starbucks, but it keeps him home and I'm getting used to the attitude he's acquiring.
Then you need a roaster in the garage, a burr grinder in the kitchen, and an Italian espresso machine on the counter.
Mr. lili paid his dues with Mr. Coffee, Chemex, Krups, Starbucks Barista, and now Rancilio Silvia. I think the cost per cup is twice that of Starbucks, but it keeps him home and I'm getting used to the attitude he's acquiring.
#18




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In the area of Brooklyn I live we have three Starbucks within a ten minute walk 
I recently find Starbucks brew is seemingly weaker coffee than I remember. Maybe I am requiring stronger than ever.
I have bought their beans but find them expensive. If you are ever in the Brooklyn area you will not regret walking into Sahadi's on Atlantic street. The prices are great for some good beans. You can buy on-line too
http://www.sahadis.com/product115_lastcat79.ihtml
I am, just as of yesterday the proud owner of a Delonghi Magnifica. Wakes me up in the morning, grinds the beans, brews my espresso, and steams my milk. Purchased the floor model at one of the local Starbucks at a greatly reduced price (much less than a cheap TransAtlantic flight). I am a happy camper.

I recently find Starbucks brew is seemingly weaker coffee than I remember. Maybe I am requiring stronger than ever.
I have bought their beans but find them expensive. If you are ever in the Brooklyn area you will not regret walking into Sahadi's on Atlantic street. The prices are great for some good beans. You can buy on-line too
http://www.sahadis.com/product115_lastcat79.ihtml
I am, just as of yesterday the proud owner of a Delonghi Magnifica. Wakes me up in the morning, grinds the beans, brews my espresso, and steams my milk. Purchased the floor model at one of the local Starbucks at a greatly reduced price (much less than a cheap TransAtlantic flight). I am a happy camper.
#19
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Uh, look at post #9......
Wow, I can't believe no one has recommended Peet's coffee, www.peets.com .................
#21
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One thing about Starbucks' brewed coffees: I think they artificially enhance it with extra caffeine (maybe so people get addicted to it...sounds familiar...
) or otherwise have the beans genetically enhanced for extra caffeine. Grab one of their nutrition brochures and look at the caffeine content of just the regular brewed coffees--it's absolutely flabberghastingly impressive. If you want to be jolted awake, get a Venti brewed coffee--it's got 400mg of caffeine.
#22
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I love the Sumatra beans. Grind them at home and use a French Press for brewing. I miss it horribly when I travel. You can't get good, bold coffee at most hotels.
#24


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I'm a Starbucks man myself. Mostly because I have a good friend who works for Starbucks, so he brings me several months worth of whole bean whenever he comes to visit.
My standbys are the Breakfast Blend and Mexican Organic.
I've also recently been turned on to Ka Bel Maribou, which is a Haitian roaster. They sell it by the pound at PAP, and I'll usually get someone to bring be some whenever they fly though there. I think they have a distributor in Phoenix too.
Whole bean for me, and I have a burr grinder where I grind just enough for my french press every morning. The drip coffee maker only gets pulled out when I have lots of company.
My standbys are the Breakfast Blend and Mexican Organic. I've also recently been turned on to Ka Bel Maribou, which is a Haitian roaster. They sell it by the pound at PAP, and I'll usually get someone to bring be some whenever they fly though there. I think they have a distributor in Phoenix too.
Whole bean for me, and I have a burr grinder where I grind just enough for my french press every morning. The drip coffee maker only gets pulled out when I have lots of company.
#25




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First off: Best thread ever!
For the longest time, there has been nothing even remotely close to Starbucks in ORK, and the only thing there is now is at the airport itself. This wouldn't be a problem, save for most of the coffee shops in town are rubbish. Bewley's is the coffee equivalent of a kick in the kidneys, and despite the heritage factor, I can't bring myself to drink Tim Horton's unless it's the only thing available.
Luckily, there's a guy just around the corner from work who does restaurant supply and will talk your ear off about coffee for hours if you let him, half an hour if you don't! And I figured by the amount of coffee I'd otherwise drink, I may as well just get a good home machine and let the economics work themselves out.
He fixed me up with a Fracino Heavenly, after a lengthy history lesson about the quality of Gaggia machines in the 80s, and a guarantee that it's just as good as the Italian machines, despite being made in Birmingham. Two years on I'm basically convinced that he was right, not to mention that the machine itself is incredibly simple and on the odd time I've had issues with it he's explained how to fix it with barely more than a screwdriver and a set of pliers. Another plus being how easy it is to clean and maintain. I end up going over it every few months to give it a thorough clean, and only gone through one seal ring so far, although they last a year or so IMO. The pump may have to be changed out in a few years, but at that point I might look into a similar rotary pump rather than the vane one that's supplied. But all in all, it's a fantastic machine that I wouldn't trade for anything and WILL be moving with us, after a few upgrades to plumb it into the water line and whatever plug needs changing/adapting to wherever we move.
That said, the quality of the machine is only part of the story. The machine package came with an innova burr grinder (The Ascaso, I believe? I never remember the model) which is fantastically sensitive as far as grind goes, if a bit loud. Luckily, as I've found with the Heavenly, the grind is a pretty integral part of the process and even successive bags of the same roast from the same company may be slightly different. Usually a turn or two is enough to change the output from the machine. It's pre-divided into single-shot segments so that two pulls on the handle gives you just enough for a double, if it's set right. And it's surprisingly resilient to rocks trying to masquerade as coffee beans.
Coffee-wise, I get the Cofesa Inda wholesale from my coffee guy for about half the cost of any of the local roasters (and given their skills with coffee, their roast isn't anything special). It's not quite as dark roast as I'd like, but after pricing out a few home roasters, it's probably not worth it to change. Plus, the coffee's actually quite good, if only a bit light, especially at the beginning of a new bag. And my coffee guy goes through at least a pallet of the stuff every week, so it's always fresh when I pick it up.
Storage-wise, we picked up a couple vacuum containers recently that do a great job of keeping out the air and keeping in the taste. They really extend the lifetime of a kilo of beans (I've tried to get them in smaller bags, but to limited success). Before, you could easily tell the difference between the end of one bag and the new one, but keeping them just in a vacuum and only taking out a few days' worth at a time certainly helps. There's still a change, but it's much less than before. And the vacuum containers worked so well for coffee, we've bought a second set and store all kinds of stuff in them.
For the longest time, there has been nothing even remotely close to Starbucks in ORK, and the only thing there is now is at the airport itself. This wouldn't be a problem, save for most of the coffee shops in town are rubbish. Bewley's is the coffee equivalent of a kick in the kidneys, and despite the heritage factor, I can't bring myself to drink Tim Horton's unless it's the only thing available.
Luckily, there's a guy just around the corner from work who does restaurant supply and will talk your ear off about coffee for hours if you let him, half an hour if you don't! And I figured by the amount of coffee I'd otherwise drink, I may as well just get a good home machine and let the economics work themselves out.
He fixed me up with a Fracino Heavenly, after a lengthy history lesson about the quality of Gaggia machines in the 80s, and a guarantee that it's just as good as the Italian machines, despite being made in Birmingham. Two years on I'm basically convinced that he was right, not to mention that the machine itself is incredibly simple and on the odd time I've had issues with it he's explained how to fix it with barely more than a screwdriver and a set of pliers. Another plus being how easy it is to clean and maintain. I end up going over it every few months to give it a thorough clean, and only gone through one seal ring so far, although they last a year or so IMO. The pump may have to be changed out in a few years, but at that point I might look into a similar rotary pump rather than the vane one that's supplied. But all in all, it's a fantastic machine that I wouldn't trade for anything and WILL be moving with us, after a few upgrades to plumb it into the water line and whatever plug needs changing/adapting to wherever we move.
That said, the quality of the machine is only part of the story. The machine package came with an innova burr grinder (The Ascaso, I believe? I never remember the model) which is fantastically sensitive as far as grind goes, if a bit loud. Luckily, as I've found with the Heavenly, the grind is a pretty integral part of the process and even successive bags of the same roast from the same company may be slightly different. Usually a turn or two is enough to change the output from the machine. It's pre-divided into single-shot segments so that two pulls on the handle gives you just enough for a double, if it's set right. And it's surprisingly resilient to rocks trying to masquerade as coffee beans.
Coffee-wise, I get the Cofesa Inda wholesale from my coffee guy for about half the cost of any of the local roasters (and given their skills with coffee, their roast isn't anything special). It's not quite as dark roast as I'd like, but after pricing out a few home roasters, it's probably not worth it to change. Plus, the coffee's actually quite good, if only a bit light, especially at the beginning of a new bag. And my coffee guy goes through at least a pallet of the stuff every week, so it's always fresh when I pick it up.
Storage-wise, we picked up a couple vacuum containers recently that do a great job of keeping out the air and keeping in the taste. They really extend the lifetime of a kilo of beans (I've tried to get them in smaller bags, but to limited success). Before, you could easily tell the difference between the end of one bag and the new one, but keeping them just in a vacuum and only taking out a few days' worth at a time certainly helps. There's still a change, but it's much less than before. And the vacuum containers worked so well for coffee, we've bought a second set and store all kinds of stuff in them.
#26
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Grinding the beans yourself does make for better coffee, I think. Having said that, it also depends on how much coffee you drink and whether or not the ground beans that you buy are freshly ground. So if you go to, say, a specialist tea and coffee shop that grinds the beans to order, and if you drink sufficient coffee at home to get through what you buy quickly (within a week, for example), then the difference is probably not so great as it would be if you buy pre-ground beans from a supermarket and don't use the coffee for a month or more...
#27
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My favorite is Greenwell Farms. We visited them in 2006 when we were in Hawaii, and I've been ordering from them ever since. My favorite is their Peaberry Kona. I always get whole bean.
http://www.greenwellfarms.com/
http://www.greenwellfarms.com/
Thanks for posting that link.
#28
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Fresh and locally-roasted beans, ground fresh and brewed in adequate quantity with freshly filtered water in a French press, is the way to go. Recently I traded in my blade grinder for a Braun burr grinder (which I bought at a Starbucks before Xmas, with discounts, for under $50) and the difference, when the grinder is set on coarse, is noticeable.
When traveling, you can pack a stainless steel French press travel mug (available through *$) and previously ground beans, and use your hotel coffeemaker to heat the water for your special brew. Take along some packets of mascaraibo sugar, and you can skip the hotel coffee packs forever.
When traveling, you can pack a stainless steel French press travel mug (available through *$) and previously ground beans, and use your hotel coffeemaker to heat the water for your special brew. Take along some packets of mascaraibo sugar, and you can skip the hotel coffee packs forever.
#29
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This weekend Marriott Courtyard had a Keurig pod brewer and I must say it was quick and easy. Just what I want in hotel coffee.
My friend usually makes her own coffee pods out new make-your-own tea bags using some super-special roast, grind, origin.
So she insisted on bringing her own coffee and one-cup drip thingie and heating water in the Keurig was tricky. The Keurig requires a pod in place or it won't heat. Note: take the used pod, remove the paper lid, wash the grounds out, place in coffee maker, add water, add cup, use hot water to make whatever you want. It kind of splashed around a bit because there is no lid on the pod. Friend complained the water wasn't hot enough for her drip cup. Oh well. (She also complained riding in the back seat of my Bimmer created air-pressure that hurt her ears because it was too airtight.)
My friend usually makes her own coffee pods out new make-your-own tea bags using some super-special roast, grind, origin.
So she insisted on bringing her own coffee and one-cup drip thingie and heating water in the Keurig was tricky. The Keurig requires a pod in place or it won't heat. Note: take the used pod, remove the paper lid, wash the grounds out, place in coffee maker, add water, add cup, use hot water to make whatever you want. It kind of splashed around a bit because there is no lid on the pod. Friend complained the water wasn't hot enough for her drip cup. Oh well. (She also complained riding in the back seat of my Bimmer created air-pressure that hurt her ears because it was too airtight.)
#30
Join Date: Aug 2006
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My favorite is Greenwell Farms. We visited them in 2006 when we were in Hawaii, and I've been ordering from them ever since. My favorite is their Peaberry Kona. I always get whole bean.
http://www.greenwellfarms.com/
http://www.greenwellfarms.com/

