I meant of burger places

One thing Five Guys will do that McDees will not us cut the burger in half,

Got a problem cut it in half, Still taste GREAT...and the workers SUPER...

Workers and BURGER many steps above McDees.

The oils that give something a greasy mouthfeel (or a greasy/oily feeling on the bun, or dripping) doesn't tend to be the fat in the patty that contributes to taste.

That said, haven't ever noticed 5 Guys seeming particularly greasy.

From the website you posted, it looks like the same folks in a new location. They were definitely not in T&C last time I was there. The original Kirk's was a funky cinder block building with a large grill over a real fire in the middle of the building. Probably went the way of many good things in one of PA's idiot "urban planning" projects.

You've got a decade on the Peninsula? I'm ahead of you by a factor of 4x.

Neither have I.

I prefer Five Guys over any other fast food burger including In 'n Out and The Habit.

I'll never tell!

There was a time that I respected you.

dh

Gotcha.

So are some of my neighbors, and I'm pretty sure the old timers around here would be surprised to find out we're in the northern/upper peninsula.

OTOH, I haven't been anywhere for 4 decades quite yet (well, anywhere breathing; it's enough under a year for that milestone that I'd have already been somewhere just not under my own power yet.)

FWIW: http://www.padailypost.com/
"The Mid-Peninsula's No. 1 Newspaper

Spanning from Mountain View to Burlingame."

The Upper Peninsula is part of Michigan. Daly City-Burlingame-San Carlos to Redwood City is just "Peninsula" sans adjective, except for Hillsborough and Atherton, which belong to their own unique galaxy, the $$$$$ Zone. "Mid-Peninsula" is Redwood City to Mountain View, but "Silicon Valley" overlaps that from Palo Alto south to San Jose. And to those with more years than I've got, Palo Alto to Gilroy was known as "the fruit basket of America" for all the apricot, cherry, peach, etc. orchards which I just barely remember from childhood.

Only in America would the very best crop land be paved over and covered with hideous concrete buildings...

When's the party?

Not exactly an upstanding reference work...

Can't remember the thread, but a while back someone here on FT won a bet that they could make San Jose a suburb of Istanbul on wikipedia. The joys of modern media!

All this typing is making me hungry. I need a burger.

Usages vary (and change over time), but I'm not sure how you've got "mid" south of "non-adjectived" and nothing to be in the middle of.

For that matter, saying that Silicon Valley extending north out of Santa Clara county is a bit controversial.

Stupid it is, but Apple makes more money than apples do.

Halloween (literally, and much to my annoyance as a kid as my parents were anti-sugar way before it was cool to be anti-sugar, and cake AND candy on the same day were right out.)

Or somewhere mileage-runned-to overseas earlier in the month.

Run by the same people who founded the PA Daily News, so they've got some local cred.

Well, if you make it up this far north, try Jeffrey's. Kirk's is on my list to try next time I'm that far south and am not already being dragged somewhere to lunch by coworkers.

Not so: I was in M�con once and was shocked to find former vineyards
covered in highrise apartment buildings.

It's local tradition, not logic.

I didn't; Palo Alto is in Santa Clara County. FWIW I personally define the northern boundary of Silicon Valley as a line drawn between the HP garage and PARC.

Not sure if that's worse than a friend's December 23 birthday (nobody notices it because they're too focused on Christmas) or another friend's New Year's birthday.

Sez who? I'm (well, was) local and definitely don't consider either particularly reliable.

Will keep it in mind. Do they make milkshakes?

*shrug* Guess a fair number of folks around my end of things didn't get read in on the tradition.

Misread that as including Redwood City, oops.

Ceased to be a problem at around age 13 when my parents gave up on the whole "sugar makes kids hyper" trope. Was actually kind of fun excuse to throw a big party in my teens, and has become an irrelevancy in adulthood.

Bad is my cousin with the NYE birthday; he's been a barely to not-at-all functional alcoholic longer than I've been alive, and somehow seems rather fated to it by his birthday.

Dunno; before the buyout the PA Daily News seemed to me to be decent, and something of a local institution.

Yes, although unlike the burgers themselves, they don't stand out as anything special, and it's not one of these huge selections of flavors that some places go for (oreo and cherry, I think, beyond the usual 3). I'm not a huge milkshake fan, though, and can't off the top of my head think of any place around here where the milkshakes stand out as anything special, whereas their burgers stand out -- really good beef, really reliable preparation across the full range of done-nesses, and good quality range of toppings without veering into the foofy theme burger territory.

(Friends who like the foofy theme burger thing really love Godfather Burger Lounge in San Carlos. Their menu doesn't really work for me, enough so that it makes it hard to judge the underlying quality.)

The fries taste so greasy and slimy... I prefer the crispness of fries from Shake Shack or In N Out.

Not sure what slimy fries taste (or even look) like. But, I've never found their fries to be particularly greasy. Of course, I've never met a potato I didn't like. My issue with their fries is the amount they give you. If I go alone, I don't want enough fries for a family of 4.