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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by ludocdoc
Correct. Nevermind that corn is indigenous to North America, so had Moses found some corn, he'd likely have eaten it. Nothing in the bible about corn -- they'd never seen the stuff.
Yes, these are considered kitniyot by Ashkenazim.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by wr_schwab
I like the smoother taste that real sugar helps bring to the party vs high fructose corn syrup (HFCS).

Either way, it just tastes better then Coke with HFCS.

I don't buy any products with HFCS in it anymore. You'd be amazed at the sheer number of products that contain HFCS.

It's true, Coca Cola from other countries is typically made with sugar. Here in Houston, we can buy the Mexican Coke in some of the local grocery stores (such as HEB).
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 1:26 pm
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Originally Posted by essxjay
HFCS are in durned near everything. Go check the labels of everything you've got in your fridge and cupboards and you'll be shocked where it HFCS turns up: pre-marinated meats to salad dressing to ketchup to yogurt.

I'm finally seeing non-artisan bread turn up on supermarket shelves specifically labeled, "Contains No High Fructose Corn Syrup."

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yep...and I no longer buy any of those products. It was even in the Hummus i was buying. But I finally found a brand that doesn't use it.

I hope these companies get a clue soon...
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 5:28 pm
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Until the vast majority of American consumers get a clue, the industry doesn't need to. People are still feeding their kids candy disguised as cereal for breakfast. I don't think they really know or care what sweetens what they eat.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by thegeneral
Until the vast majority of American consumers get a clue, the industry doesn't need to. People are still feeding their kids candy disguised as cereal for breakfast. I don't think they really know or care what sweetens what they eat.
General, I totally agree with you. I've only recently started paying more attention to what I put in my body and the ingredients lists of most products sold at grocery stores. I wish I had paid more attention sooner.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by SRQ Guy
In addition to other reasons mentioned above, HFCS is much cheaper than sucrose thanks to US farm subsidies and protectionist sugar tariffs.
The latter reason was, I thought, why HFCS is used in place of sugar for processed food/beverages in the U.S. I understand the quotas and tariffs have been in place for over 20 years.

It's a headache to go through but quite a bit of info is posted here:
http://www.fas.usda.gov/itp/imports/Sugar/sugartrq.asp

It seems sugar imports in the U.S. have been quota/tariff free before 1934 and between 1974 and 1982.

One possible advantage to ethanol production driving up the price of corn, though, might be that sucrose becomes cheaper than HFCS.
Or maybe result in the abandonment of the tariffs and quotas. Do note that ethanol has quite a bit less energy content than straight gas (on a volumetric basis) so it isn't a panacea.
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by hlburi
yep...and I no longer buy any of those products. It was even in the Hummus i was buying. But I finally found a brand that doesn't use it.

I hope these companies get a clue soon...
Sad thing is, real hummus doesn't have any sugar or any sweetener in it.

General, I totally agree with you. I've only recently started paying more attention to what I put in my body and the ingredients lists of most products sold at grocery stores. I wish I had paid more attention sooner.
or simply reduce the amount of sugar and other sweeteners consumed.

http://www.cspinet.org/new/sugar_limit.html

In 1967, Americans ate 114 pounds of sugar and sweeteners a year per capita, nearly all of it as either raw or refined sugar. In 2003, each person consumed about 142 pounds of sugar per year.

Since high-fructose corn syrup was developed more than 30 years ago, consumption of the sweetener, which flavors everything from soda pop to ranch dressing, has skyrocketed. Now Americans down about 61 pounds a year each.

Since 1950, soft-drink consumption per capita has quadrupled, from about 11 gallons per year to about 46 gallons in 2003--nearly a gallon a week per person.
http://health.usnews.com/usnews/heal.../28sugar.b.htm
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Old Apr 16, 2008 | 11:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ludocdoc
Correct. Nevermind that corn is indigenous to North America, so had Moses found some corn, he'd likely have eaten it. Nothing in the bible about corn -- they'd never seen the stuff.
Similarly, rice is prohibited during Passover by the Ashkenazim. They didn't know anything about it in Eastern Europe, but the Sephardim use rice during Passover, especially, I understand, those from the Persia area.

(Hag Samayach.)
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:22 am
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Well, all this explains why I've been drinking coke in Paris for he last three days. I had no idea that it was the sugar vs. HFCS! ^ ^

It also explains why I liked Coca Cola growing up in italy, but hated Coke Classic when I moved to the US.

Thanks to the OP for explaining this mystery to me! :-:
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 12:39 am
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I hope these companies get a clue soon...
Hoping won't get us very far.

We must *give* food manufacturers a clue, they won't just acquire one on their own. @:-)
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Old Apr 17, 2008 | 7:21 pm
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the problem is that the american consumer generally wants cheaper, quicker, easier food, no matter the nutritional cost.

i buy nothing that contains HFCS. this, among with other dietary changes and more activity, has allowed me to lose and keep over over 60lb in the last year.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 4:41 am
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Originally Posted by essxjay
Hoping won't get us very far.

We must *give* food manufacturers a clue, they won't just acquire one on their own. @:-)
Originally Posted by jws026
the problem is that the american consumer generally wants cheaper, quicker, easier food, no matter the nutritional cost.

i buy nothing that contains HFCS. this, among with other dietary changes and more activity, has allowed me to lose and keep over over 60lb in the last year.
That's part of what you can do. The other thing that helps is to tell others about what you've been doing and why, in the hopes that they will make the same choices for the better that you have made.

If the preferences of the American consumer change, companies will react sooner or later. But what you need for this grassroots change to happen is an educated consumer base - and that's something neither the business community nor the government seem to be interested in developing.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by jws026
the problem is that the american consumer generally wants cheaper, quicker, easier food, no matter the nutritional cost.

i buy nothing that contains HFCS. this, among with other dietary changes and more activity, has allowed me to lose and keep over over 60lb in the last year.
I think US tastes are beginning to change. The real problem is that we have so many poor people for whom "bad" food is comfort and cheap. Real food takes time and money. And it can be hard to find.

I'm off to the only grocery in Memphis I know about that sells Kosher to see if they have Kosher Coke. I drink Coke rarely, but love the old stuff. (I also buy Kosher chicken there. I may be deluded, but I think it tastes better than factory chicken.)
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by manneca
I think US tastes are beginning to change. The real problem is that we have so many poor people for whom "bad" food is comfort and cheap. Real food takes time and money. And it can be hard to find.

I'm off to the only grocery in Memphis I know about that sells Kosher to see if they have Kosher Coke. I drink Coke rarely, but love the old stuff. (I also buy Kosher chicken there. I may be deluded, but I think it tastes better than factory chicken.)
i would hope so. compared to what i've gotten used to in europe, USA mass food seems so cheesy and low-quality.

there was this kosher butcher in st. louis i'd visit occasionally. i was under the impression kosher slaughtering was done under such strict and high-quality conditions (assuming it's a small operation) that the taste would be much, much better.
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Old Apr 18, 2008 | 8:55 am
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One interesting thing to note in the HFCS vs. sugar debate is the impact the two have on your body. They both have calories, but due to chemical compositions, real sugar will actually make you feel full from drinking it whereas HFCS will not. Now I wonder why we're seeing grade school kids with type 2 diabetes when this was previously unheard of....
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