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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 9578431)
I'd dearly love to see some whiz-bang chemist crack the recipe secret on the old formula and start a new soda company.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 9578431)
Here's a prediction. Eventually Coke will cave to some degree on the availability of non-HFCS product in the U.S. And what they'll probably do is market a Coke w/Real Cane Sugar product -- at a premium price, of course -- to compete with the other all-sugar, all-the-time soda producers such as Jones.
Coke was a really wonderful product pre-1985, but this lumbering behemoth of a corporation left me with a bad taste in my mouth (literally) when they changed formulation. I'd dearly love to see some whiz-bang chemist crack the recipe secret on the old formula and start a new soda company. 1) I don't know why I didn't think of this before, but Boylan's (no website that I can find) makes a Real Cane Cola product that is sweetened with cane sugar. Not bad. 2) If you're interested in the history of Coca-Cola (and in what may be in the "secret" recipe), this book may be of interest. |
Originally Posted by kaukau
(Post 9578468)
So, the recipe is there for the tinkerin' -- now who's actually doing the bottlin'!? That's what I wanna know! :D |
BTW, the search gods were listening today. Here are a some past discussions on this favorite FT topic:
Drinking Coke - From a real glass bottle Real, cane sugar Coke alert! Coke made with Sugar Finding Coke made with sugar in the US |
Thanks for the background on why HFCS is used in the US version of Coke. I figured price was probably the only possible reason - I like Coke, but the HFCS brew is absolutely vile. :td:
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Originally Posted by sonoranjerseygirl
(Post 9563295)
One of the things I love about living in Phoenix is that I can get Mexican Coca-cola pretty much everywhere. I even saw a case of it at Costco last week. I do feel slightly bad about not returning the bottles.
Besides, I can get made with cane sugar Coke in Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia. I'm there often enough... :p |
Originally Posted by joporto
(Post 9577995)
There are a few reasons. I researched this (well cruised the internet a bunch looking at different theories, etc...) and there seems to quite a few reasons. HFCS is sweeter so they can use less of it for flavoring (even if it isn't as good). It also acts as a preservative and increases shelf life. This is why it can be so difficult to find bread that doesn't have HFCS. It is also used a lot in Frozen foods for the the same reason. My sister mentioned to me that a lot of Canadian foods still use sugar. She surmises that Canada still has access to Cuban Sugar and that the US does not and that is a factor. Whether or not that is true, I have no idea.
I've done a lot of research on the corn/HFCS being someone with a corn intolerance. The speculation on the obesity epidemic can be directly traced to the increased use of HFCS and other corn derivatives in our food making processes in the US. No other country comes close to the crap that goes in our foods. It is going to take a few years and it's going to take a grass roots effort of concerned people (like many folks on FT that I've noticed), but the federal government is going to have to take a close look at this relationship and what it's doing to people in the US, and why other countries don't have as many obese people as we do. FWIW, one of things this corn stuff does to me is makes me want to eat more. When I get into a corn product, one side effect is I have a day or so that I can't put food in my mouth fast enough... all day. Nothing seems to satisfy me. One speculation about why food makers use these products is to get that effect, so people want more, thus eat more, thus have to BUY more. So, it all comes back to corporate greed, and in this case, Gordon Gecko is wrong, greed isn't good when it comes to the health of this country. |
It's true that Canada has access to Cuban sugar, however, Cuba is rated #10 in world production of sugar (in 2002, as per this: http://spectrumcommodities.com/educa...ics/sugar.html ).
JP
Originally Posted by jimcfsus
(Post 9581364)
Interesting spin on the Canadian sugar... I wouldn't have thought of that, but I have noticed the same on Canadian foods.
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Denver Costco has the cane sugar Coca-Cola as well.
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I started not drinking sweet drinks (pop, fruit juices) as much as possible several years ago. I also try to avoid foods with more chemicals than recognizable food. Now, I can't eat lots of stuff with preservatives in it. All I can taste is the chemicals. I can't even stand splenda. Not that I'm great with food--I still don't eat enough veggies.
But, I make an exception for Coke with real sugar. Yummmmm. |
Originally Posted by alex0683de
(Post 9576465)
Is there any advantage to it that would justify the penalty in terms of taste? :confused:
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I thought this was interesting.
I learn about Passover Coke on FT one day and the next I read about it in The Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/dining/16susie.html By JULIA MOSKIN Published: April 16, 2008 TO Passover cooks parched for new ideas, wandering in a desert of matzo and dried-out brisket, Susie Fishbein is like a tall, icy Coca-Cola — the kosher for Passover kind, made with sugar instead of corn syrup. |
Originally Posted by techgirl
(Post 9577304)
Dublin Dr. Pepper. I just saw six (or maybe twelve?) packs of the cans at the Fort Worth Central Market yesterday.
Not inexpensive, but the ONLY way to drink Dr. Pepper in my book. I guess I have a sister that loves me - for my 50th birthday last month, she brought up 5 cases of the good stuff (Dublin Dr Pepper - remember there is no period after Dr!) up to me^ I think she got it in Temple at a Wal-Mart and bought the supply out. Swimmin' M |
It's really not hard to find Mexican Coke made with cane sugar, it's the price that's off-putting. Even my local Kroger (I live in a small town in a rural area) has mexican coke in the mexican food section of the store. It's $1.99 for a single bottle, but since I only drink one or two a month, that's not a problem.
You can also go into just about any little hole in the wall mexican grocery store (we have several in my area) and find it, usually cheaper. Take a look around your town, I am sure you will find some. ^ (and stay away from HFCS, it's the devil! lol) |
Just drink Jones Soda. It tastes better anyways with or without sugar. As a bonus, it's available now on every Alaska Airlines flight.
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