Specialty Coffees - your thoughts
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I'll admit that I'm not as much of a purist as my youngest brother who was once a "barista" for an un-named coffee chain. However, I've found that the coffees we agree to love are:
1. Wegman's Barry House Buzz - good enough that I can drink it black, a real challenge for me since I really like coffee the same color as me, and I'm a freckled redhead
2. Folger's Gourmet Selections in chocolate or caramel - Almost good enough to drink black
and 3. Our absolute favorite is a fresh roasted Kona shipped straight from HI by our best friend.
We also enjoy most coffees from Caribou Coffee...
We REALLY don't like any of the coffee from Starbucks. It tastes like it's burnt and isn't worth the price.
1. Wegman's Barry House Buzz - good enough that I can drink it black, a real challenge for me since I really like coffee the same color as me, and I'm a freckled redhead
2. Folger's Gourmet Selections in chocolate or caramel - Almost good enough to drink black
and 3. Our absolute favorite is a fresh roasted Kona shipped straight from HI by our best friend.
We also enjoy most coffees from Caribou Coffee...
We REALLY don't like any of the coffee from Starbucks. It tastes like it's burnt and isn't worth the price.
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We're coffee nuts - I drink waaaay too much of it. Our favorite is from our local coffee roaster Old Bisbee Roasters. They hand select the coffees that are in season and only roast in small batches. The owner is a perfectionist and has been written about in Gourmet Magazine. We even order it by mail when we know we're going to be in one place for more than a couple of weeks. $14/lb delivered.
I loathe Starbucks - it is sooo burned.
For our 'cheap coffeee' we like Community coffee. If you make it really strong it's pretty good.
We also like Illy - a fairly pricey Italian coffee that we got hooked on in San Miguel de Allende Mexico.
Most of it depends on what you like.... and how you make it. I think a french press is the best but I even make it in the little hotel 4 cup coffee maker.
I loathe Starbucks - it is sooo burned.
For our 'cheap coffeee' we like Community coffee. If you make it really strong it's pretty good.
We also like Illy - a fairly pricey Italian coffee that we got hooked on in San Miguel de Allende Mexico.
Most of it depends on what you like.... and how you make it. I think a french press is the best but I even make it in the little hotel 4 cup coffee maker.
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It could be that you've fried the coffee receptors on your taste buds after all those cups. A good cup of coffee is quite a treat.
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Stick with the wine analogy.
There are people who love two buck chuck and think it's one of the best wines out there, it's even won some awards.
There are also many people who wouldn't go near the stuff unless it was to clean paintbrushes.
Coffee is exactly the same, it all depends on what you like.
There are people who love two buck chuck and think it's one of the best wines out there, it's even won some awards.
There are also many people who wouldn't go near the stuff unless it was to clean paintbrushes.
Coffee is exactly the same, it all depends on what you like.
I just started receiving Boca Java coffee and am in love--The Banana Fosters flavor is just delightful. It's pricey, but coupons/discounts can be found on the Internet.
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One of the cardinal sins of coffee stores is the overroasting of very precious beans.Never waste money buying kona,blue mountain,brazillian estate,etc at a Starbucks or a Peets.They kill the unique charecter intrinsic to these very special coffees.
I have been buying from Inteligentsia Coffee in Chicago.They roast the day of shipment usually and are very picky about the beans they buy and respect the beans by NOT roasting every type to a full city roast or darker.
I am sure Dallas must have such a coffee store-but it might entail a bit of a search.
I have been buying from Inteligentsia Coffee in Chicago.They roast the day of shipment usually and are very picky about the beans they buy and respect the beans by NOT roasting every type to a full city roast or darker.
I am sure Dallas must have such a coffee store-but it might entail a bit of a search.
Edited to add: I forgot to mention use filtered water! The chemicals that are put into our drinking water can really affect the way good coffee tastes. I really can't stress enough to use filtered water only! Never ever ever ever tap water!
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HAH! *$'s DOES burn its beans!
In an effort to rule over everything coffee-starbucks has bought the company that makes the "clover"machine-whis is like an automated press pot and makes one cup at a time.These machines cost $11,000 each 
I have experienced the clover at Intelligentsia--folks it is not all that wonderful.The coffee is not in contact with the water-which is not hot enough-long enough to fully extract the flavor.
I would much rater be served an individual press pot.
Here is an article about this
http://consumerist.com/372326/starbu...or-burnt-beans

I have experienced the clover at Intelligentsia--folks it is not all that wonderful.The coffee is not in contact with the water-which is not hot enough-long enough to fully extract the flavor.
I would much rater be served an individual press pot.
Here is an article about this
http://consumerist.com/372326/starbu...or-burnt-beans
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A rather extreme anti-starbucks move by an indie
I get that they do not want to give starbucks one red cent-but I do hope they can find a buyer for a used $11,000 coffee maker!
http://consumerist.com/372729/no-sta...-coffee-makers
http://consumerist.com/372729/no-sta...-coffee-makers
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Geographically speaking, IMHO Blue Mountain and Kona are the two best varieties of coffee I've had. The name of the last pound of Kona I went thru is escaping me, but I'll put it this way: I came home from my last cruise with 5 pounds of Blue Mountain in the luggage. I pick it up in the pierside shops in Ocho Rios, where it is shockingly well-priced.
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spend some time here:
http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders
use filtered water. do the wine blind taste thing, and see if you can tell the difference.
i use paper filters. i find them to be finer than the gold filters. i do not like sludge in my coffee, although purests use cloth as it lets the sludge run through.
http://coffeegeek.com/reviews/grinders
use filtered water. do the wine blind taste thing, and see if you can tell the difference.
i use paper filters. i find them to be finer than the gold filters. i do not like sludge in my coffee, although purests use cloth as it lets the sludge run through.
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Robin Williams: "What is this, sludge?"
Hank Azaria: "Yes, it's sludge - I thought it would make a nice change from coffee."
Hank Azaria: "Yes, it's sludge - I thought it would make a nice change from coffee."
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Geographically speaking, IMHO Blue Mountain and Kona are the two best varieties of coffee I've had. The name of the last pound of Kona I went thru is escaping me, but I'll put it this way: I came home from my last cruise with 5 pounds of Blue Mountain in the luggage. I pick it up in the pierside shops in Ocho Rios, where it is shockingly well-priced.
If you're in ANC, the Kaladi Bros. Trieste is a really nice espresso blend, though it's not grown locally.
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Please define what you mean by specialty coffees. There are quite a few things called coffee these days. In terms of things like lattes, etc, they are mostly meant as breakfast drinks. If you're talking about better beans, then that's something different. I've drank a ton of Green Mountain coffee and really don't like it. The best way I can describe it is that it has a dirty taste to it. I like Vermont products and spent a lot of time drinking the stuff (was served at a place I worked), but I really never found it to be anything special.
In terms of advice in general, I would suggest a few things.
1. Buy a burr grinder and use fresh beans. The fresh grind does the most to help your effort.
2. Find out what kind of roast you like. Can you handle dark roasts or do you just like light roasts. If you don't like dark roasts, then it won't matter what kind of coffee is used if it is roasted that way.
3. Get a machine that does expresso. I always prefer an Americano (expresso with water added) to a standard drip. There's just more flavor.
There is a large cost to buying expensive coffees every day. It eats up disposable income quickly. There are plenty of better things you can do with the money if you make the coffee at home such as travel or giving it to people in need.
"3. I use drip most of the time but french press for entertaining guests."
Good post. I'm sort of torn on the french press. It's great if you drink the coffee quickly, but the strength changes as you drink it if you drink it slowly and you always end up with sludge in the bottom of your cups. I'm not sure that guests would appreciate that. I do use one from time to time though.
In terms of advice in general, I would suggest a few things.
1. Buy a burr grinder and use fresh beans. The fresh grind does the most to help your effort.
2. Find out what kind of roast you like. Can you handle dark roasts or do you just like light roasts. If you don't like dark roasts, then it won't matter what kind of coffee is used if it is roasted that way.
3. Get a machine that does expresso. I always prefer an Americano (expresso with water added) to a standard drip. There's just more flavor.
There is a large cost to buying expensive coffees every day. It eats up disposable income quickly. There are plenty of better things you can do with the money if you make the coffee at home such as travel or giving it to people in need.
"3. I use drip most of the time but french press for entertaining guests."
Good post. I'm sort of torn on the french press. It's great if you drink the coffee quickly, but the strength changes as you drink it if you drink it slowly and you always end up with sludge in the bottom of your cups. I'm not sure that guests would appreciate that. I do use one from time to time though.
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