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FlyingDoctorwu Oct 22, 2015 12:41 pm

Wait those are euro prices... and euro bottlings so only 70 cl bottles.. skip them.. just kidding... Amazing prices.. I can't even wrap my head around those prices.. they clearly had to ship the bottles across the ocean and yet are a huge magnitude cheaper than you can find within spitting distance of the distillery.... does that US system (distillery->distributor->retail) plus US alcohol taxes really add that much?????

FDW

stimpy Oct 22, 2015 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 25601743)
Wait those are euro prices... and euro bottlings so only 70 cl bottles.. skip them.. just kidding... Amazing prices.. I can't even wrap my head around those prices.. they clearly had to ship the bottles across the ocean and yet are a huge magnitude cheaper than you can find within spitting distance of the distillery.... does that US system (distillery->distributor->retail) plus US alcohol taxes really add that much?????

I should have said those prices are duty-free. So the same bottle in French store or UK would have 20% sales tax. But even then it sounds like you guys are saying it's cheap.

DaveBlaine Oct 22, 2015 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 25601743)
Wait those are euro prices... and euro bottlings so only 70 cl bottles..

Ahh, therein lies the rub.

It's that Euro conversion and the smaller bottle.

I'd still try it. And a bottle of John B. Stetson as well.

DaveBlaine Oct 22, 2015 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25599598)
I saw plenty of Four Roses Single Barrel and Four Roses Small Batch at the supermarket yesterday for 17 and 14 bucks respectively. Are these any good or just run of the mill bourbon?

You refer to Euros as "bucks"?

Interesting.

stimpy Oct 22, 2015 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by DaveBlaine (Post 25602019)
You refer to Euros as "bucks"?

Interesting.

Yes, it's a slang word that is not owned by the dollar. However as this is a US dominated thread I probably should have said "euro-bucks". Sorry. Maybe someone can do the full Euro-dollar conversion and 70 to 75cl or whatever it is.

DaveBlaine Oct 22, 2015 2:20 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25602133)
Yes, it's a slang word that is not owned by the dollar. However as this is a US dominated thread I probably should have said "euro-bucks". Sorry. Maybe someone can do the full Euro-dollar conversion and 70 to 75cl or whatever it is.

No worries.

Still, it's a great deal on some great bourbon.

Duke787 Oct 22, 2015 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25602133)
Yes, it's a slang word that is not owned by the dollar. However as this is a US dominated thread I probably should have said "euro-bucks". Sorry. Maybe someone can do the full Euro-dollar conversion and 70 to 75cl or whatever it is.

I believe that comes out to about $0.27/cl USD for the 70cl in Europe vs $0.40/cl USD for the 75cl in the US (assuming current exchange rate and $30 for bottle in US).

So a good deal and even better where prices are above $30 in the US

LondonElite Oct 23, 2015 3:56 am


Originally Posted by stimpy (Post 25599598)
I saw plenty of Four Roses Single Barrel and Four Roses Small Batch at the supermarket yesterday for 17 and 14 bucks respectively. Are these any good or just run of the mill bourbon?

stimpy, can I ask where or what the River shop is where you are buying these?

BamaVol Oct 23, 2015 8:42 am


Originally Posted by Duke787 (Post 25603210)
I believe that comes out to about $0.27/cl USD for the 70cl in Europe vs $0.40/cl USD for the 75cl in the US (assuming current exchange rate and $30 for bottle in US).

So a good deal and even better where prices are above $30 in the US

Probably more like $0.53/cl for me. I re-checked my local shop and the going price for the single barrel is $39.99. $0.27 is an excellent deal.

stimpy Oct 23, 2015 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by LondonElite (Post 25604580)
stimpy, can I ask where or what the River shop is where you are buying these?

Andorra is the place for buying alcohol and tobacco in Europe. Tax free and due to all of the commerce that goes on there they have huge supplies of both. For the more popular liquors you can buy 5 liter bottles. :) Pastis, Scotch, Spanish Brandy, etc. I just wish they could get some of the more rare Bourbon in. You can also buy a jug of 96% grain alcohol and make your own liquor. Limoncello, yum!

thelark Oct 23, 2015 12:31 pm

4 roses single barrel is a no brainer at that price - generally one of the best all-around values going these days

broadwayblue Oct 23, 2015 4:29 pm

Ordered a few bottles of the Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition 2015. This year's is a bit older than the 2014, and it's the last release made under Jim Rutledge's direction.

FlyingDoctorwu Oct 24, 2015 9:49 am


Originally Posted by broadwayblue (Post 25607556)
Ordered a few bottles of the Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition 2015. This year's is a bit older than the 2014, and it's the last release made under Jim Rutledge's direction.

Did you order from a place that had them in stock...? it's a fairly hard find this year.. Ive heard it's better than last years but not quite as good as 2013....

FDW

broadwayblue Oct 24, 2015 10:55 am


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 25609910)
Did you order from a place that had them in stock...? it's a fairly hard find this year.. Ive heard it's better than last years but not quite as good as 2013....

FDW

Yes, they had them in stock. I've kind of given up walking door to door around the neighborhood looking for these special releases. 9 times they aren't in stock and the 10th the store is asking hundreds of dollars for them. I wish I could find a 2013...would love to do a '13, '14, '15 vertical tasting!

exerda Oct 24, 2015 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 25599937)
Down that area Perfect Pour is solid. They have had barrel selects in the past but not sure about right now. If you want Pappy hit up Pine Orchard but be prepared to pay secondary prices. Silver spring is considered Montgomery county I think so availability is searchable online.

Thanks for the recommendations! ^

Stopped by Perfect Pour this morning and marveled at some of the Scotch available for far better prices than in VA (didn't buy any, though; I was there for bourbon). Picked up Orphan Barrel's Rhetoric 21-year expression--I'm not entirely sold on Orphan Barrel, but hey, it's not everyday you can find 21-year-old bourbon for $100 instead of 5x-10x that price. Also picked up a Filibuster blend of rye and bourbon I hadn't come across before.

Not sure if I'll stop this evening in Silver Spring or not; I think I've spent my budget on booze for the week already, and have trips out west coming up soon which means I'll be bringing back anything and everything I don't see around here.


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