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Originally Posted by stimpy
(Post 25842661)
You should try more. Maker's is decent enough, but it is regarded as a good low end Bourbon. I was recently at the St. Regis Washington D.C. and Maker's is the lowest end bourbon there and regarded as the "house" bourbon. But they have a lot of higher end choices and really good rye whiskey too. I especially enjoyed the Whistling Pig.
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I am currently doing a side-by-side comparison of Black Jack and Woodford Reserve. Woodford Reserve has been my go-to sipping bourbon. I bought the Jack for mixing.
They are closer than I would have expected. The Woodford Reserve is a little smoother and somewhat sweeter, but no "hotter" (in spite of its higher proof). My conclusion: Woodford Reserve is better but not worth the extra price if you're mixing and maybe not worth the extra price for sipping. |
Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 25865770)
I'll grant you those are all mighty fine drinking ryes, but probably are all a bit higher than I want to spend on turning them into bitters. ;) The Smooth Ambler is at least under $40, though...
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Originally Posted by dodgeflyer
(Post 25967419)
Smooth Ambler (old scout?) - that's around £45 in London, ie ca $65. It is a decent drink though
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Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 25968597)
Even in Virginia ABC stores with their inflated prices, it's around $40. ;)
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In Virginia liquor can only be bought in the ABC stores (beer and wine can be bought elsewhere). In small towns the ABC stores may have very limited inventories of many liquor types, but they usually have a decent selection of bourbons.
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Originally Posted by EricH
(Post 25971101)
In Virginia liquor can only be bought in the ABC stores (beer and wine can be bought elsewhere). In small towns the ABC stores may have very limited inventories of many liquor types, but they usually have a decent selection of bourbons.
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Oh well, I guess I'll just have to fly the bourbon in. My last time at MHT they have a pretty nice bourbon store by the gates after security. I'm sure I'll be up there again soon enough.
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In VA, the stores are a state monopoly with state-set prices and largely a state-wide selection (not all stores will have everything, but stores will not have *more* than the state has decided to carry, either).
Some of the prices are insanely inflated; for example, Masterson's Rye and Bourbons are $120-ish in VA ABC stores. I brought them back from NV for $60 or less. We have a few good deals, but by and large, prices are inflated over what they are in other states (and not just due to excise taxes). Don't get me started on allocated stuff, which is almost impossible to come by in VA, and which no one in VA can explain how to get (e.g. there's supposedly a waiting list, but they're not taking new applicants and keep talking about having "a new mechanism" "in development" but never any word). The stores can't give you any good info about special orders or requests, either. I like the revenue the VA ABCs bring the state, but the way they're run is just atrocious. As for good stores near IAD, what do you mean by "near?" There's a Signature Store in Tyson's which often has higher-end selections, and another store in Tyson's which has other harder-to-find stuff. I haven't been impressed with the locations in Reston, Herndon, or Sterling, or Chantilly I've visited. |
Originally Posted by CMK10
(Post 25971189)
North Carolina is the exact same. Around Christmas time the ABC Stores here tend to stock better stuff.
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Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 25974675)
As for good stores near IAD, what do you mean by "near?" There's a Signature Store in Tyson's which often has higher-end selections, and another store in Tyson's which has other harder-to-find stuff. I haven't been impressed with the locations in Reston, Herndon, or Sterling, or Chantilly I've visited.
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Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 25974675)
In VA, the stores are a state monopoly with state-set prices and largely a state-wide selection (not all stores will have everything, but stores will not have *more* than the state has decided to carry, either).
Some of the prices are insanely inflated; for example, Masterson's Rye and Bourbons are $120-ish in VA ABC stores. I brought them back from NV for $60 or less. We have a few good deals, but by and large, prices are inflated over what they are in other states (and not just due to excise taxes). Don't get me started on allocated stuff, which is almost impossible to come by in VA, and which no one in VA can explain how to get (e.g. there's supposedly a waiting list, but they're not taking new applicants and keep talking about having "a new mechanism" "in development" but never any word). The stores can't give you any good info about special orders or requests, either. I like the revenue the VA ABCs bring the state, but the way they're run is just atrocious. As for good stores near IAD, what do you mean by "near?" There's a Signature Store in Tyson's which often has higher-end selections, and another store in Tyson's which has other harder-to-find stuff. I haven't been impressed with the locations in Reston, Herndon, or Sterling, or Chantilly I've visited. |
Originally Posted by dchristiva
(Post 25984414)
All of this describes precisely why I go into D.C. to buy my liquor. Better selection, better prices. I understand that's not an option for everyone, but I really hate the state-run liquor store concept. Makes me miss NY and the local guy who provided great prices and great customer service.
While I was still living in AL, the guy running the ABC's determined that 90% of the revenue came from 10% of the SKU's. That's right, he eliminated the 90% that only contributed to 10% of the sales. When private industry runs the business, there is no one size fits all mentality. If a guy thinks he can make a go with a wide selection and higher prices, he's free to try. Likewise, someone can do what the state did and cater to the masses that want nothing but Crown, Jack and Bud. |
Originally Posted by dchristiva
(Post 25984414)
All of this describes precisely why I go into D.C. to buy my liquor. Better selection, better prices. I understand that's not an option for everyone, but I really hate the state-run liquor store concept. Makes me miss NY and the local guy who provided great prices and great customer service.
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Originally Posted by EricH
(Post 25986277)
In past years, Virginia police would stake out major DC liquor stores (esp. at major holidays) and radio the license plates and descriptions of VA cars to VA police at the bridges into Virginia. I haven't heard any stories about this in a few years. Have they stopped?
I'm in D.C. this weekend. Maybe I'll check out the shops here. |
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