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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by chicka12
Thanks for the tips! I have one that I read in Kitchen Confidential -- don't order a seafood omelete for Sunday brunch. It's usually just the leftover seafood from the weekend and may not be so fresh. That book actually has lots of dining tips, like when the best nights are to go out for sushi (NOT Mondays!).
chica12--Good call on Kitchen Confidential. Wonderful book. Have not ordered a brunch, nor have I ordered seafood on a Monday since readling Bourdain's book. He is really a piece of work. However, I have read all of his books; fiction and non-fiction. The non-fiction works are better. Bourdain is brilliant! I would love to share a dinner-table conversation with him. Does any one remember tobacco-laced ice cream prepared by T. Kelleher?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by techgirl
Seriously?

I'm bothered when people I'm dining with start stacking dishes at the table for the servers. And as a former server myself, it doesn't help the process at all.

I think this is rude and hope that no one I'm dining with does this when I'm at the table.
Serious question: Why does it not help the server in an informal restaurant if the dishes are stacked at the end of the table (esp at a booth)? I would have assumed that it was a "nice " gesture. ( From the "old days" when properly brought up young people were taught "not to make extra work for the servants".)

Of course in a more formal restaurant one assumes that the bus people will remove the used dishes at just the right time and in the most aesthecitally pleasing manner and that for the guest to "stack" them on the table would be simply to destroy the beauty of the table and the dining pleasure of the other guests. I assume it is in that sense that you find it rude to the other people at the table and in the restaurant.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by techgirl
Seriously?

I'm bothered when people I'm dining with start stacking dishes at the table for the servers. And as a former server myself, it doesn't help the process at all.

I think this is rude and hope that no one I'm dining with does this when I'm at the table.
I was writing that under the assumption that the server takes empty chip baskets anyway. The issue of tipping is for another thread, but suffice it to say that servers who go beyond the norm don't do it for free when I'm responsible for the tip.
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Old Feb 9, 2005 | 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Tempus Fugit
Serious question: Why does it not help the server in an informal restaurant if the dishes are stacked at the end of the table (esp at a booth)? I would have assumed that it was a "nice " gesture. ( From the "old days" when properly brought up young people were taught "not to make extra work for the servants".)

Of course in a more formal restaurant one assumes that the bus people will remove the used dishes at just the right time and in the most aesthecitally pleasing manner and that for the guest to "stack" them on the table would be simply to destroy the beauty of the table and the dining pleasure of the other guests. I assume it is in that sense that you find it rude to the other people at the table and in the restaurant.
As a server, I used to have to pick through those "baskets" to pull out silverware, trash, etc. If folks stacked plates one on top of another, that meant I had to not only deal with scraping food off the top of the plate, but also touching their leftover food on the bottom as I separated the stacked dishes. I would prefer to properly clear the table and stack the dishes myself to get silverware and trash out as I stack them.

The original poster commented on using the chip basket. I've been at tables with several folks who assume that because they are done with the chips that others must be too... and start throwing trash in the empty basket which signals the server that we all must be done.

If I'm at a fast food or counter service place, it is totally a different story, but the scenario here was a Mexican restaurant and if I'm being waited on by a server, I don't need to do his/her job for him or her.

And yes, beyond that, it is an aesthetic thing... if the entire table is done eating, then all dishes should be cleared. If one person is done, it is rude of that person to signal to the others that they too should be done by pushing their plate away, stacking dishes, or other behaviors. Emily Post and Miss Manners both have a few statements on this.

(And on that manners topic... another pet peeve: I think it is rude to put your napkin in your dirty plate when you are done dining. And it is even ruder when you are dining at my house where you very well may be staining or ruining my nice cloth napkins. Your napkin belongs on your lap and if you are done eating, it can be folded neatly.)
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