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Originally Posted by sbratcher
(Post 11917613)
going on a BBQ pilgrimage to KC next month. Can't wait!! My plans are Bryant's, Fiorella's, Gates and Oklahoma Joe's across the river.
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Originally Posted by greggwiggins
(Post 11917891)
While you're in Kansas City try the burnt ends at LC's. Here's their website, here's a review.
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oh man!! you're killing me :D
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Went to Dreamland BBQ in Tuscaloosa, AL
Not the best ever, but it was pretty darn good. |
Man, you people are killing me. California is too health conscious. We're not exactly swimming in good BBQ places. Especially where I live. Luckily, a Lucille's BBQ opened up here. Maybe not the best ever (but still quite good), but the alternatives are the prepacked stuff like at Costco or Walmart. I'm serious too. It's all Mexican, Italian, or Sushi around here. Sadly, only the Mexican stuff is good (which is weird cuz I'm pretty far from Mexico).
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hill country'ish area texas
within the state of colorado, i havent been to any restaurant that can smoke as well as what i make at home the stuff about "no sauce on real bbq".... hogwash. |
Smokeybones BBQ
I doubt this will qualify for the best but it is pretty darn good. The food is MUCH better than their website.
www.smokeybones.com |
Originally Posted by codex57
(Post 11918453)
Man, you people are killing me. California is too health conscious. We're not exactly swimming in good BBQ places.
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Originally Posted by greggwiggins
(Post 11921917)
I'd have to strongly disagree with codex57; California gave us Santa Maria barbecue.
Visiting the Santa Maria Valley is a feast for the senses with its lush rolling hills and fragrant fields of strawberries. But cruise down Broadway on any given weekend, and it’s the mouth-watering smell of barbecue that will greet you. In fact, Santa Maria is known nation-wide as the "Barbecue Capital of the World." |
I agree it's not the barbecue capital (we all know that's in the Carolinas :D ) but Santa Maria barbecue can be very, very good.
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Originally Posted by greggwiggins
(Post 11924479)
I agree it's not the barbecue capital (we all know that's in the Carolinas :D ) but Santa Maria barbecue can be very, very good.
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Originally Posted by greggwiggins
(Post 11921917)
I'd have to strongly disagree with codex57; California gave us Santa Maria barbecue.
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Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 10280508)
For the past two years, Lucille's Bad To The Bone BBQ in Delray Beach, FL, has hosted the PBI-FLL Meet and will do so again this December.
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Agree with comments about the Salt Lick, pretty much amazing, simple and they do it well.
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Originally Posted by codex57
(Post 11925143)
They need to hire a marketing firm or something. I drive by Santa Maria a lot. No clue they had bbq. Course, it doesn't help that they're in Santa Maria. That's like being the tree that fell in a deserted forest.
I did know (or at least had heard) that the tri-tip steak originated in that area. Next time I go through, I'll be doing so with an appetite. Anyone have any specific suggestions for a particular restaurant that best showcases the best barbecue in the west? |
If you have a chance to visit AUS, you should be sure and drive down to Lockhart. It is 30 minutes from the airport, and two of the best real BBQ places are located in the downtown area.
- Blacks - Kreutz - Smittys This is the real thing, slow cooked in mesquite, no silly sauces. Briskets and porks are both excellent, and I have ordered large amounts and taken them away on the airplane with me for dining over the next few weeks at home. Kreutz is not open on a Sunday. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/416185 |
Originally Posted by Wilbur
(Post 11939410)
If you have a chance to visit AUS, you should be sure and drive down to Lockhart. It is 30 minutes from the airport, and two of the best real BBQ places are located in the downtown area.
- Blacks - Kreutz - Smittys This is the real thing, slow cooked in mesquite, no silly sauces. Briskets and porks are both excellent, and I have ordered large amounts and taken them away on the airplane with me for dining over the next few weeks at home. Kreutz is not open on a Sunday. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/416185 |
You are correct - OAK, not mesquite.
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PJ's Bar-B-Q in Saratoga Springs, NY. (Seasonal.)
http://www.pjsbarbq.com/ Yeah, it's north of the Mason Dixon line (by a far piece). But let me tell you, PJ knows his ribs. If you are ever in the area, stop on by. I guarantee you will be going out of your way in the future to be there when they are cooking. My son and I drove up there (about 5 1/2 hours from here)a couple of years ago, for the sole purpose of buying ribs to serve at his H.S. graduation party. Kicked myself for not buying enough to have left-overs, because everyone at the party devoured them, and said they were best ribs they ever had. Currently, have about 6 racks left down in the freezer. We thaw 'em out, and then reheat 'em on the grill. Close enough. (My son went about 2 1/2 hours out of his way on the way home after the end of the semester, to get us a fresh supply of a dozen racks.) For anyone who likes good 'Cue, trust me -- you won't leave disappointed or hungry. |
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 11939414)
I thought it was actually cooked over oak wood not mesquite. But whichever, I agree that it is the real deal. This is a long thread, the Lockhart group is mentioned numerous times. :)
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Sonny's BBQ is not good. It's tolerable if you can smother it with their sauces and wash it down with some sweet tea. The worst part is that it used to be a good value, we would go 2-3x a week from work for the $4.99 lunch special, but that's long gone and the average ticket is north of $10 at which point it's not a good value.
In Tampa our choices are between slim and poor, my two favorite, Hog Heaven on 301 and Big John's Alabama BBQ on 40th street are now closed. |
Originally Posted by BillMorrow
(Post 2723065)
shareholder,
You could start fights with this type of question. Personally, I prefer 'southern' style BBQ with a sweet, sticky sauce applied after ribs have been slow cooked for a long time. To me, the best example of this style is Tom's on North Federal Hwy in Boca Raton, FL. I went to college in Boca and used to eat at the place regularly in the early 80's. When he moved to Boca it wasnt quite the same. I know they bounced around quite a bit since that time but I believe they finally went out of business at their last stop on Federal Highway in Delray. Is that the case or did they ever open back up? |
Originally Posted by jfe
(Post 11918245)
Went to Dreamland BBQ in Tuscaloosa, AL
Not the best ever, but it was pretty darn good. I stopped at Tipton's in Wilkesboro, NC. Liked that, too bad I dont get there more often. |
For me it's a tie between Gates in MCI [original location] and Powdrell's in ABQ.
Powdrell's has the best hotlinks I have ever tasted. I am not ashamed to admit that I have on occasion even dreamed about them. Also, IMO the S.E. can keep all of that rotting vinegar nastiness. |
Best BBQ in USA
Hands down, it is Jack Stack in KC. I am planning a trip from San Diego because Jack is totally incomparable. My husband and I try BBQ everywhere and I am a pretty darn great chef; but Jack is what I aspire to and without a smoker or hours to perfect that glaze, it is worth a flight and hotel stay credit weekend just to get those "burnt ends" and mouth watering brisket.
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Being a native of Kansas City, I'm very biased when it comes to BBQ. I truly believe we have the best in the USA.
Here are my picks: Kansas City Area #1-Arthur Bryant's (Yes, the do have one located in Terminal A at MCI, however, it's NOT the same experience and food quality as what you'll get at the downtown location). #2-Smokehouse BBQ #3-Gates BBQ #4-Jack Stack #5-Wabash BBQ (Excelsior Springs, MO) #6-Winslow's City Market BBQ #7-Oklahoma Joe's BBQ #8-Wyandot BBQ Elsewhere in Missouri #1-Three Pigs BBQ (Lake of the Ozarks/Gravois Mills, MO) #2-B&P BBQ Pit (Lake of the Ozarks/Sunrise Beach, MO) #3-Brown's BBQ (Clinton, MO) #4-Rib Shack BBQ (Springfield, MO) Oklahoma City Area #1-Dale's BBQ (Moore, OK) #2-Oklahoma Station BBQ #3-Larry's Rib Pit #4-Crockett's Smokehouse (Midwest City, OK) |
Originally Posted by PHLbuddy
(Post 2722816)
I agree the styles are different based on regionand perhaps should be clarified
Memphis: Charlie Vergos Rendezvous. Outstanding dry ribs. Great beans/rice for vegetarians too Kansas City: Arthur Bryant Barbeque. Great "wet" ribs." For a non-traditional suggestion, if you live in San Francisco, try Sneaky's BBQ. It's delivery only, and comes cold unless you're having an event catered, so you will have to warm it in the microwave. But the meat is absolutely delicious. (I do not care for their sides, however.) |
Checking in from a Memphis Downtowner:
If you're an out of town visitor, go to Rendezvous or Corky's, They are both popular and world-famous for a reason. Also the best place to spot a celebrity. Rendezvous defines the standard for Dry ribs. Locals from Memphis prefer Interstate BBQ or Central BBQ. My favorite rib place on Beale St. is Blues City Cafe (great tasting ribs and it's where Tom Cruise starred in "The Firm"), with a five-way tie for 2nd place. |
Originally Posted by g24kb8
(Post 2723633)
I am a fan of Sonnys which is a chain mostly in Florida, unbelievable sweet sauce. Greenbrier is just outside Huntsville, Alabama, very good southern BBQ.
I also loved Corky's. |
Black's, Kreutz or Smitty's in Lockhart. Salt Lick in Austin, for the family and tourist trade. Cooper's in Llano, long an oasis for traditionalists.
As previously noted, sweetenings in BBQ sauce ranks close to the Albigensian Heresy as anathema. Additionally, barbecue is at its best served on butcher paper, un-sauced, minimal accompaniments except for bread ("store bought", what my Granny called "light Bread"), pickles and onions and a thin "dipping sauce" on the side. Sausage can be a world of its own, with some of the small packing house brands being superlative. Towns like Elgin, Snook, West Station and Brenham can be visited for no other reason than to buy sausage. Then there are "Hot Links", the poor man's meat treat, "ring bologna" beatified, an East Texas standard. Cabrito and Lamb require both a gentle heat and a very careful pit man. Then there are the appetizer courses, not barbecue, but "smoked", mullet, wild goose and some wild ducks, gems of the home smoker's art. Can you still find smoked mullet in the "Fish Camps' which once could be found on the "Redneck Riviera" from Pensacola to Apalachicola? Long ago, 5 decades or so, the ribs at Lou Bono's in JAX were hard to match, but occasional repeat visits reveal a sad descent toward mediocrity (at best). Pork can be good, but much of the finely chopped "Pulled Pork" served in the Carolinas, etc., reminds me of the contents of some canned military rations of my youth. Just give me a large section of the pig, and I'm happier. Pulled Pork falls into same same category as "Barbacoa" (the best made from the head), convenient, but not barbecue, and usually not up to snuff. As for "Santa Maria", there's nothing wrong with grilling, except calling it BBQ. God created brisket to supply the carnal appetites, sophisticated palates and refined tastes of Jews and Texans, two cultures under-appreciated for their substantial contributions to mankind. |
Originally Posted by TMOliver
(Post 13331801)
Pulled Pork falls into same same category as "Barbacoa" (the best made from the head), convenient, but not barbecue, and usually not up to snuff.
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Originally Posted by TMOliver
(Post 13331801)
Black's, Kreutz or Smitty's in Lockhart. Salt Lick in Austin, for the family and tourist trade. Cooper's in Llano, long an oasis for traditionalists.
As previously noted, sweetenings in BBQ sauce ranks close to the Albigensian Heresy as anathema. Additionally, barbecue is at its best served on butcher paper, un-sauced, minimal accompaniments except for bread ("store bought", what my Granny called "light Bread"), pickles and onions and a thin "dipping sauce" on the side. Sausage can be a world of its own, with some of the small packing house brands being superlative. Towns like Elgin, Snook, West Station and Brenham can be visited for no other reason than to buy sausage. Then there are "Hot Links", the poor man's meat treat, "ring bologna" beatified, an East Texas standard. Cabrito and Lamb require both a gentle heat and a very careful pit man. Then there are the appetizer courses, not barbecue, but "smoked", mullet, wild goose and some wild ducks, gems of the home smoker's art. Can you still find smoked mullet in the "Fish Camps' which once could be found on the "Redneck Riviera" from Pensacola to Apalachicola? Long ago, 5 decades or so, the ribs at Lou Bono's in JAX were hard to match, but occasional repeat visits reveal a sad descent toward mediocrity (at best). Pork can be good, but much of the finely chopped "Pulled Pork" served in the Carolinas, etc., reminds me of the contents of some canned military rations of my youth. Just give me a large section of the pig, and I'm happier. Pulled Pork falls into same same category as "Barbacoa" (the best made from the head), convenient, but not barbecue, and usually not up to snuff. As for "Santa Maria", there's nothing wrong with grilling, except calling it BBQ. God created brisket to supply the carnal appetites, sophisticated palates and refined tastes of Jews and Texans, two cultures under-appreciated for their substantial contributions to mankind. |
Originally Posted by PHLbuddy
(Post 2722816)
I agree the styles are different based on regionand perhaps should be clarified
Memphis: Charlie Vergos Rendezvous. Outstanding dry ribs. Great beans/rice for vegetarians too Kansas City: Arthur Bryant Barbeque. Great "wet" ribs."
Originally Posted by nnn
(Post 13319521)
I've been to both of the above, but that's because I was a tourist and these are the touristy places.
Wait ... Kansas City ... touristy? ;) |
Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 13331849)
See, we can agree on something. Blacks was my favorite when I lived in Austin. But Salt Lick and Ironworks were excellent. Heck, even a bunch of brisket and a bucket of sweet tea from Bill Miller has quite the treat. :)
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I wasn't overly impressed with The salt lick BBQ. The atmosphere was great but the food only mediocre and had the appearance of grilled ribs slathered in sweet sauce.
My favorite Texas place is the chain of "Rudys' country store and BBQ" gas station BBQ restaurants. Top notch meats. The brisket sandwich is only topped by the one in KC (Oklahoma Joes'). Rudy's sides could use some work. For BBQ, I haven't yet found a region that could beat KC. Jack Stack's and Oklahoma Joes' are my favorite. Didn't care much for the Smokehouse BBQ or Zarda's. |
Sonny Bryan's on Inwood Road in Dallas is having a ceremony celebrating 50 years on Wednesday, Feb 10th. The mayor will be there, and sandwiches are $2.50 all day. Dean Fearing will be the celebrity spokesperson
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Originally Posted by coachrowsey
(Post 11920264)
I doubt this will qualify for the best but it is pretty darn good. The food is MUCH better than their website.
www.smokeybones.com Smokey Bones opened a new shop up in Memphis a few years ago on Winchester Rd. in east Hickory Hill. I thought at the time that they (or their franchisee?) might be a bit too overconfident. Sure enough, they closed not long thereafter. I likened it to opening a Red Lobster in PWM's Old Port, or a P F Chang in any given China Town. :D |
Leatha's in Hattiesburg, MS.
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Originally Posted by stemor
(Post 13360667)
Smokey Bones opened a new shop up in Memphis a few years ago on Winchester Rd. in east Hickory Hill. I thought at the time that they (or their franchisee?) might be a bit too overconfident. Sure enough, they closed not long thereafter.
I likened it to opening a Red Lobster in PWM's Old Port, or a P F Chang in any given China Town. :D |
I found Smokey Bones surprisingly decent when I ate there twice in Scranton, PA. Of course not near as good as most local joints in BBQ country. I also enjoyed the 'bar' atmosphere and BBQ together which I've rarely experienced anywhere.
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