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Originally Posted by Kgmm77
(Post 31572789)
A few respected reviewers, Including Andy Heyler...
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Originally Posted by gengar
(Post 31656623)
Is he really?
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The loss of all three stars by Araki seems correct.
Restaurant never made sense to me. Have had sushi that's 10x better for more than half the price. |
Originally Posted by sophialite
(Post 31665145)
The loss of all three stars by Araki seems correct.
Restaurant never made sense to me. Have had sushi that's 10x better for more than half the price. |
Originally Posted by sophialite
(Post 31665145)
The loss of all three stars by Araki seems correct.
Restaurant never made sense to me. Have had sushi that's 10x better for more than half the price. |
Originally Posted by sophialite
(Post 31665145)
The loss of all three stars by Araki seems correct.
Based on reviews, pictures and price I won't be dining there. With only 10 covers it's no surprise they charge what they do. I've been to the nearby 2* Umu which is a very different experience. Kaiseki rather than just sushi. I didn't feel it merited those stars but that might have been because of my meal choices. They have *a lot* of seats in comparison and about half the price. IMO sushi only places *can* be deserving of 3 stars. I've been to a few and at least two of those were (again IMO) clearly 3*. If you took someone there who didn't know about the stars they would say "That was amazing" in a stunned manner at the end of the meal. |
Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31669147)
Generelly very sceptical how a sushi-place shall earn 3 stars. Also many seem to lost every sense for reality regarding prices. Often price is justfied with rare fish, something I not even wonna support.
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Originally Posted by HKTraveler
(Post 31677555)
Why cant sushi be 3 stars places? Not sure I understand the reasoning here
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31678081)
Donīt say it canīt but Iīm sceptical. I canīt see very much cooking with classical Sushi.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
(Post 31678081)
Donīt say it canīt but Iīm sceptical. I canīt see very much cooking with classical Sushi.
There are plenty of 3* places that have got there by a sense of theatre, some who have got their primarily because of the room and service as much as the food. The only way you can do it with Sushi is by ingredient selection, craft in rice preparation, knife skills and a few special touches that set you apart from the competition. Cheffy presentation on 'not plates' with foams and pearls is one thing, but it's not what makes me personally rate a place. Sushi Yoshitake in Tokyo and Sushi Shikon in Hong Kong are both excellent. I haven't been to the former in a long time, and I haven't been to the latter since it's recent move but I never regretted the cost of those meals. [Shikon was supposed to be going to a bigger venue but the Mandarin Oriental must have convinced him to keep the traditional counter + 1 private room format. I'm glad. The price has remained the same as when he was in the Mercer which was a bit of a hole really.] I do agree though that there are some massively over-hyped and over-valued sushi places. It's all a matter of personal taste and preference in the end, and 'advertising' affects us all, generating expectations, promising experiences... Some of the photos I've seen on TripAdvisor for the recent sushi at The Araki London were quite poor IMO. Even the arrangement of the ingredients in the boxes prior to prep seemed slack. You wouldn't ever see that at the places I mentioned. The theatre and precision of the prep is part of the experience. I'm still looking for the perfect roast chicken. Can French Onion Soup, Roast Chicken and Creme Brule ever make a Michelin meal? I live in hope. Bouillabaisse has made it. Bao of various descriptions have made it. Food done to perfection will always be worth a special trip for me :) |
Originally Posted by DeathSlam
(Post 31678545)
[Shikon was supposed to be going to a bigger venue but the Mandarin Oriental must have convinced him to keep the traditional counter + 1 private room format. I'm glad. The price has remained the same as when he was in the Mercer which was a bit of a hole really.]
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Originally Posted by HKTraveler
(Post 31678746)
At the Mandarin, Kaki-San is running both Shikon and the new kappo restaurant.
Originally Posted by HKTraveler
(Post 31678746)
Tbh, I prefer Sushi Masataka over Shikon
Originally Posted by HKTraveler
(Post 31678746)
Uehara is also very good in HK
I can't see their pricing. I presume they're not HKD 3500? Given I'm not based in Asia, I'm having to think would I be better heading to HK and the new Saito or just push on to Japan and the more numerous and cheaper top quality options there. If there was ever a body of people to give an informed opinion on that question I think I'm in the right place :) |
Originally Posted by DeathSlam
(Post 31678995)
I can't see their pricing. I presume they're not HKD 3500?
It is about half that price so some of the deficiencies are forgiven. It is also the place where the Japanese expats go for good sushi |
London: Core by Claire Smith 2 stars
Claire Smith was in the past chef at Gorden Ramsey at Hospital Road were she was awarded with 3 Michelin stars. I visited in 2012 and really enjoyed my meal. So I was really excited to try her own restaurant Core which received 2 Michelin stars.
The restaurant is located at Notting Hill. We entered the restaurant and were first seated at the bar till our table was ready. As the restaurant was mostly empty this time not really logical. This bar seating seems to be a new trend which I donīt like. The first restaurant room is split in 2 parts. One is a big table which acts as chefs table. Behind a glass wall is the open kitchen. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8d9083c27c.jpg The second room is the main dining room which is furnished mainly in white colors. The table were very nicely decorated. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...33861a46bb.jpg Our meal started with beautiful looking small bites which also tasted very good. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6f53685250.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f29687d1e8.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9bf7637ee5.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f86fa00e66.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...61253b91eb.jpg Butter https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9a6687dca9.jpg We decided to take the Core Classic menu (125 GBP) and contained no meat this evening. Isle of Mull scallop tartare sea vegetable Consommé https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...54eb3473b9.jpg 'Cheese and onion' alliums, aged cheddar and onion broth https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...47f4eb6a6e.jpg Potato and roe dulse beurre blanc, herring and trout roe https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...789271afa5.jpg Roasted monkfish Morecambe bay shrimps, Swiss chard, brown butter https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...62a219cfe7.jpg I canīt remember what the following 2 courses were excactly. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c75414089e.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...98d2f87cfe.jpg Core apple https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ddbfa673b9.jpg Pear and verbena poire Williams sorbet https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a73fe9560a.jpg Petit fours https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7e814f859c.jpg The meal was really really god, in my eyes the best I had in London this time. Without saying too much About my upcoming meals at Gordon Ramsey and Alain Ducasse I canīt understand the 2 star rating here while the 2 formentioned hold 3 stars. The food at Core was in my eyes simply better. I can absolutely recommend Core, itīs a very good restaurant. |
Core does look exactly my kind of fine dining from reviews and from seeing your photos. I actually tried to go on a recent trip to London, but it's understandably a bit too popular for one of my usual last minute trips. I ended up at Sketch Gallery (the newly 3* minted Sketch library was unsurprisingly full) which has unfortunately gotten uncomfortably "instagrammy" since I was last there and is no longer such a fun place to hang out and just enjoy the scenery. So. Many. Girls. With. iPhones.
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