How you dinner died
#16
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Isn't at least beef supposed to have died several days/weeks before consumption?
I remember having dinner at a Ruth's Chris steakhouse and reading about how and when the beef is processed, part of it was letting the meat "rest" after the cow was slaughtered, it would make the meat more tender and less bloody.
Since the steaks at Ruth's Chris are absolutely superb I guess what they are talking about.
BTW. there is a word for this practice. English is not my mother tongue so it doesn't come to mind right now...
I remember having dinner at a Ruth's Chris steakhouse and reading about how and when the beef is processed, part of it was letting the meat "rest" after the cow was slaughtered, it would make the meat more tender and less bloody.
Since the steaks at Ruth's Chris are absolutely superb I guess what they are talking about.
BTW. there is a word for this practice. English is not my mother tongue so it doesn't come to mind right now...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by FlyByMike:
Anyone remember when at Fuddruckers you could see your cow and eat it too? For some reason they stopped that practice.
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Anyone remember when at Fuddruckers you could see your cow and eat it too? For some reason they stopped that practice.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ql2112:
BTW. there is a word for this practice. English is not my mother tongue so it doesn't come to mind right now...</font>
BTW. there is a word for this practice. English is not my mother tongue so it doesn't come to mind right now...</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ql2112:
After a couple of minutes they are all numb/sedated by the wine. Finally they are boiled and served: by that time they are usually pretty dead.
terenz Are you sure nobody tried to play a joke on you?[/B]</font>
After a couple of minutes they are all numb/sedated by the wine. Finally they are boiled and served: by that time they are usually pretty dead.
terenz Are you sure nobody tried to play a joke on you?[/B]</font>
The guy ate the other prawn which was similarly "alive". So if it was a joke, he was playing it on himself.
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Must have been a very remarkable experience terenz! 
I've eaten drunken prawns at least 30 times in Hong Kong, both with locals as with other gweiloos, but they were always boiled and certainly dead.
My favorite restaurants to have the drunken prawns are the Wan Loong Court (basement of Kowloon Hotel) and Long Yuen (under the Holiday Inn on Nathan Road), both in TST. Maybe you should try one of these restaurants next time...
BTW. I'm not sure I spelled the restaurant names 100% correct, about the locations I'm 100% sure.

I've eaten drunken prawns at least 30 times in Hong Kong, both with locals as with other gweiloos, but they were always boiled and certainly dead.
My favorite restaurants to have the drunken prawns are the Wan Loong Court (basement of Kowloon Hotel) and Long Yuen (under the Holiday Inn on Nathan Road), both in TST. Maybe you should try one of these restaurants next time...

BTW. I'm not sure I spelled the restaurant names 100% correct, about the locations I'm 100% sure.
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Must have been a very remarkable experience
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Must have been a very remarkable experience
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Before the authorities banned it a few years ago, there was this craze about eating lived friend fish in Singapore. Might seem a contradiction but how it was supposedly dome was to put a live fish into oil up to its neck so the flesh cooked. Supposedly the fish was still alive when it was served to the diners.
I call it unnecessary cruelty.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pakse:
[B]Howdy,
rule 2 - anything over two and half pounds can be tough - stick to the small guys - I prefer 2#'ers.
Actually, the above rule is a long perpetuated myth. Having lived in Maine and Massachusetts most of my life, I can assure you that large lobsters are in fact quite tasty and not tough, in fact they are the absolute best. Unfortunately they are exponentially more expensive than the smaller ones, and I think the prohibitive cost has more than anything else, lead to the perpetuation of this "sour grapes" myth.
If you can afford it, I highly recommend large lobsters. Just make sure they are fresh and haven't been in the tank long. Best to get them at a lobster pound or a retaurant that specializes in seafood that does such a good business that the stock is turned over daily or twice daily. Bon Appetit.
[B]Howdy,
rule 2 - anything over two and half pounds can be tough - stick to the small guys - I prefer 2#'ers.
Actually, the above rule is a long perpetuated myth. Having lived in Maine and Massachusetts most of my life, I can assure you that large lobsters are in fact quite tasty and not tough, in fact they are the absolute best. Unfortunately they are exponentially more expensive than the smaller ones, and I think the prohibitive cost has more than anything else, lead to the perpetuation of this "sour grapes" myth.
If you can afford it, I highly recommend large lobsters. Just make sure they are fresh and haven't been in the tank long. Best to get them at a lobster pound or a retaurant that specializes in seafood that does such a good business that the stock is turned over daily or twice daily. Bon Appetit.
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[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by hhonorman:
Yes they are best when you get them at a lobster hut or pound. We usually get them in Plymouth and the large ones are pretty tasty.
I highly recommend large lobsters. Just make sure they are fresh and haven't been in the tank long. Best to get them at a lobster pound or a retaurant that specializes in seafood that does such a good business that the stock is turned over daily or twice daily. Bon Appetit.
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Nothing like fresh ceviche made onboard from conch and lobster you've just brought up with you from a dive.
I've had sashimi on liveaboards from freshly caught fish, but it usually tastes a bit odd...probably the difference between line-caught and net-caught.
I've had sashimi on liveaboards from freshly caught fish, but it usually tastes a bit odd...probably the difference between line-caught and net-caught.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by taucher:
I've had sashimi on liveaboards from freshly caught fish, but it usually tastes a bit odd...probably the difference between line-caught and net-caught.</font>
I've had sashimi on liveaboards from freshly caught fish, but it usually tastes a bit odd...probably the difference between line-caught and net-caught.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by terenz:
A bit of a danger in this: sushi/sashimi fish are often flash frozen to kill off parasites. There's a chance that some worm or parasitic organism that burrows in a fish's flesh will surive your stomach and burrow into you (it can happen in salmon for one). Trained sushi chefs will look for the worms.</font>
A bit of a danger in this: sushi/sashimi fish are often flash frozen to kill off parasites. There's a chance that some worm or parasitic organism that burrows in a fish's flesh will surive your stomach and burrow into you (it can happen in salmon for one). Trained sushi chefs will look for the worms.</font>
I'd heard that salmon always requires preparation because it's not strictly a saltwater fish, but that pelagic fish were okay. Taking no chances, however, I think I'll avoid all diveboat sushi from now on.

